Might have to watch it. FWIW comparing series, Strange New Worlds straddles the fence between ToS and TNG. It’s got the morality battles of TNG and the absurdity of some ToS episodes. Only issue is the Emotional Spock. Don’t know why these writers and directors have to fuck with Spock all the time.
Don’t know why these writers and directors have to fuck with Spock all the time.
After watching my wife’s reaction to Spock in the latest movies and series, I get it. The character is kind of a triple-threat if you keep his emotional side in frame:
His intelligence is always on display, which makes him a sapiosexual’s dream-boat. I’d wager a lot of the women in Trek fandom lean this way.
Emo spock is utterly and perpetually broken, yet retrievable. His dual heritage and upbringing is a tragic story that renders him vulnerable. Yet It’s a kind of vulnerability that is entirely not his fault, and seems fixable through love and care. SNW explored this through his relationship with Chapel, and he really does improve a bit, inviting the audience to indulge this fantasy a bit more.
Then there’s the usual traits: physical strength, good social standing, and ranking officer. He’s a somebody, and can hold his own with just about everyone.
In contrast, TOS Spock, along with the backstory we get from the movies, is someone that purged his emotions to become a paragon of stoicism. It’s a male power-fantasy of sorts, which is speaking to a completely different audience (and in a different era).
I’ll add that SNW is a delightful thirst-trap of a show, where every character scratches someone’s itch. The writers really did need to “fuck with Spock” to fill out the roster of attractive archetypes.
I was really disappointed with the 3rd season of SNW, so much so that I couldn’t finish the finale. I mean, the crew fighting evil spirits to save the universe from annihilation, really? It’s like the writers forgot what genre they were in and suddenly started trying to appeal to morons who just consume without thinking.
I liked - didn’t love, but liked - the first 2 seasons, but they seem to have leaned into the bad aspects and abandoned all the good ones.
The Orville really comes out as a far more serious show, for sure. From the way its directed, the writing, filming, pacing, casting, costumes, sets… everything just screams “TNG: the lost episodes.”
The “Moclins get addicted to cigarettes” episode is about as silly as it gets, but is underpinned by the sci-fi premise of: “when worlds collide.” Much like The Trouble With Tribbles, it’s light-hearted and hilarious, yet explores a very plausible “what if” scenario that doesn’t break the universe or character in any way.
Contrast that to the SNW musical episode, which is just pure fun with a paper-thin flimsy premise, and we really do have something utterly ridiculous at times.
Might have to watch it. FWIW comparing series, Strange New Worlds straddles the fence between ToS and TNG. It’s got the morality battles of TNG and the absurdity of some ToS episodes. Only issue is the Emotional Spock. Don’t know why these writers and directors have to fuck with Spock all the time.
After watching my wife’s reaction to Spock in the latest movies and series, I get it. The character is kind of a triple-threat if you keep his emotional side in frame:
In contrast, TOS Spock, along with the backstory we get from the movies, is someone that purged his emotions to become a paragon of stoicism. It’s a male power-fantasy of sorts, which is speaking to a completely different audience (and in a different era).
I’ll add that SNW is a delightful thirst-trap of a show, where every character scratches someone’s itch. The writers really did need to “fuck with Spock” to fill out the roster of attractive archetypes.
I was really disappointed with the 3rd season of SNW, so much so that I couldn’t finish the finale. I mean, the crew fighting evil spirits to save the universe from annihilation, really? It’s like the writers forgot what genre they were in and suddenly started trying to appeal to morons who just consume without thinking.
I liked - didn’t love, but liked - the first 2 seasons, but they seem to have leaned into the bad aspects and abandoned all the good ones.
I can’t relate at all. Season 3 was great.
Probably got AI to do the writing.
It didn’t occur to me until I read this comment, but SNW is currently more of a silly show than The Orville. Strange times.
The Orville really comes out as a far more serious show, for sure. From the way its directed, the writing, filming, pacing, casting, costumes, sets… everything just screams “TNG: the lost episodes.”
The “Moclins get addicted to cigarettes” episode is about as silly as it gets, but is underpinned by the sci-fi premise of: “when worlds collide.” Much like The Trouble With Tribbles, it’s light-hearted and hilarious, yet explores a very plausible “what if” scenario that doesn’t break the universe or character in any way.
Contrast that to the SNW musical episode, which is just pure fun with a paper-thin flimsy premise, and we really do have something utterly ridiculous at times.
Any time Star Trek moves back into its own timeline I usually check out.