• destructdisc@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 day ago

    yeah, what could be worse than the guy who authorized 563 drone strikes that killed nearly 4000 people, including American kids. Hmm.

    • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com
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      I mean, the President before him started two wars and the one after him fumbled COVID badly, so there is that.

      Don’t get me wrong, Guantanamo Bay is still open so my opinion of Obama is pretty low, but…

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        Obama was unable to close Guantanamo Bay due to political opposition and legal challenges that arose after he took office, despite initially promising to shut it down within a year. By the end of his presidency, he had reduced the number of detainees but faced significant congressional restrictions that hindered further action.

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      Some people believe if more than x people are killed, whether the deaths are x number or 2x or x^2 doesn’t make any difference: once we reach x, it’s maximum horrible. Actions that reduce from something greatly more than x to something slightly more than x are not worth pursuing, because the deaths are still more than x, which is max horrible, so those actions don’t matter.

      Other people believe that any senseless death avoided is always worthwhile, and support actions that reduce the volume of senseless death. Even if a lot of killing still happens, it’s positive to reduce it.

      I can’t tell if you are in the first group, or if you really lack the context of active conflicts the US is involved in with hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths that you cannot imagine anything worse than 4,000 deaths.

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      What could be worse? Man, i can’t think of a single thing! Obama was the awfulest human to defecate in the white house of All Time!

      (for my autistic friends; i don’t really think that. I’m using hyperbole to underscore my position that Obama was not the worst person of all time.)