• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    If this is what it takes to get radicalized after everything that has happened thus far… well…

    Glad you’re across that finish line I guess!

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    Not the tearing down the White House I wished for, but we take the gift horses we get

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    $300 million. Could build a skyscraper. Instead building a big, mostly empty room.

    The grift

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    One fat New York golfer doing in a matter of days what 19 of Saudi Arabia’s best and brightest couldn’t manage after planning for years.

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    What do you want to bet the contractors currently working on it aren’t going to get paid?

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    Insider knowledge says he has been planning this a while to get back at his opponents and have something so large no one will be able to ignore it.

    Donald gets off on people thinking about him, no matter if it’s negative or positive. By building this HUGE, UGLY, ILLEGAL ballroom, he is showing his opponents his legacy will be remembered forever.

    I say we demolish that shit ASAP as soon as he dies so we can get rid of any changes he made to the PEOPLES HOUSE.

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      By building this HUGE, UGLY, ILLEGAL ballroom

      Aw fuck, I didn’t even think about that. So when he’s out of there, it’ll get rebuilt at taxpayer expense again. Meanwhile, you know it’s going to be gaudy trash.

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      People’s House? You mean the Presidential Palace, right?

      I mean, it’s kind of funny how many purported leftists are grieving the destruction of a building that has been, for my entire lifetime, a metonym for war, bigotry, and oppression. The place where the most powerful men in the world smugly claimed to be “for the people” while looting the wealth of poor Americans to buy bombs to drop on poor foreigners.

      Any building that hosted Henry fucking Kissinger as an honored guest deserves to be torn down.

      Fuck the White House. Let Trump pave it over, claim the square mile surrounding it by eminent domain, and build a four million square foot presidential palace like Dubai’s. At least then the appearance would honestly match the reality.

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        Even if you feel that the white house should stop being used as an active part of the USA government, it doesn’t make sense to tear it down.

        Take Auschwitz for example - a horrible place, but worth preserving so that future generations can see history in person and learn from the past. At the very least, the whitehouse is worth preserving for its historical value, if nothing else.

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          Take Auschwitz for example - a horrible place, but worth preserving so that future generations can see history in person and learn from the past.

          I understand your argument, and I see the merit in it, but I deeply disagree. Some history doesn’t deserve to be preserved. We can learn from the worst of our past - we can celebrate the lives of the Nazis’ victims, mourn their deaths, and learn about the evil that killed them and the apathy and bigotry that enabled it - without turning genocide into a tourist attraction.

          They paved over Hitler’s bunker and put a parking lot on top of it. A much more fitting end.

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            Auschwitz became a museum because Auschwitz survivors made sure it was. Survivors fought to preserve it and created what we see today. Otherwise it would long have been paved. It’s a place to remember the victims but also the atrocities commited there.

            It’s not so much a tourist attraction, rather a monument to warn about fascism. It’s very different to visit than to just read about it in a book. Also, it’s not for-profit. It’s publicly funded.

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            The parking lot was built specifically to keep Nazis from having a place of worship

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    Gavin Newsom go away, you are the fakest, most superficial, visionless resistance fighter I can possibly imagine.

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      I know he’s less theft ideal… But at least he’s one of the few officials repeatedly going publicly against trump. So many people are either quiet or supportive of it.

      Enemy of my enemy etc. Not ideal bed fellows but you gotta make some alliances to take down the fascists. Division works in their favour, it’s literally their tactic

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        Nope, rallying behind someone like Gavin Newsom is a massive strategic mistake, enemy of your enemy can still absolutely be your enemy and honestly I get the strong feeling Gavin Newsom enjoys the WWE style grandstanding of being a fighter against Trump far more than he actually desires to resist the content of Trump’s political actions and because of that I think it is dangerous to keep giving Gavin Newsom the limelight unquestioned.

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          I didn’t say rally behind him though. I just see people saying nothing but negative things about him whenever he comes up.

          It’s like everyone constantly going against Kamala Harris. Yes, you’re correct, yes it’s shit. She supported Israel too… But sewing division and not voting leads to trump getting into power, which is much worse for Palestinians. Let alone all the fashy, nazi shit.

          There are much better candidates they newsom that should get support for running in the future. But attacking him everytime he’s mentioned isn’t super constructive to the ultimate goal, not having Nazis in power.

          Gotta out the really bad first, then push for better.

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            Gotta out the really bad first, then push for better.

            No, no we don’t we doom ourselves by taking that kind of cynical “not too much now!” kind of philosophy towards progress and reform. The last presidential election thoroughly proved that selling yourself as the lesser of two evils is not a winning political strategy, period. End of story.

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      Yes.

      1. it is a historical landmark building, you cannot just start doing shit to them without going through the proper channels.

      2. it is in the city of Washington DC, and they need to be included in the process.

      3. they have not provided plans, something needed for literally any construction project.

      4. they are not even bothering to shield the site, so anyone from any intelligence agency from any country can watch.

      5. Congress holds the purse strings per the US Constitution. The president cannot just unilaterally do this shit. This is what autocrats do.

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      Its a big deal because, aside from everything else, any construction on any government owned buildings requires a approval process that has not been done. This approval process is because the US taxpayers own this building, the president does not. They (the administration) are claiming that only “construction” needs to be approved and “demolition” does not, this is why they went ahead and started this project without approval.

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      Depends—do you often hire companies to perform construction or renovation on houses you don’t own?

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      Afaik they have not put in the plans to the planning board or whatever. Basically they did not go through the right procedures but literally just started demolishing the building.

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    I mean… the dude is a total dick for sure. Seeing the current state of USA politics though – the entire building should be demolished and replaced by a gray castle. Do it right.

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    This is all about humiliation. How much humiliation will the US take before they get violent and allow him to declare martial law with the insurrection act?

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    Destroying iconic architecture is his hobby. Trump Tower in NYC replaced the iconic Bonwit Teller building, which was one of the last standing examples of its distinctive architectural style.

    He announced his intention to tear it down, and historians went nuts. The Metropolitan Museum of Art offered to take the famous bas relief sculptures from the facade, and he agreed.

    Then one morning, NYC woke up to Trump simply destroying the building, including the iconic friezes that he had promised to save.

    So destroying iconic architecture is just standard Trump behavior.

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        Honestly say this point be is everything the usa deserves. They deserve every pain every heartache and every atrocity they is happening.

        There is no reason this should have ever been allowed. So the checks and balances have been eroded for years by all parties involved and the people are actively letting it happen.

        It is absolutely terrible for many individual people who don’t deserve the horror they find themselves facing but the people en masse are to blame.

        Burn it to the ground and start over. Such a disgrace

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          The problem with the idea of burning it all to the ground and starting over is that’s exactly the Republican plan. Destroy so many institutions and cultural beliefs that there’s nothing left to stop them. Meanwhile Democrats are writing a strongly worded letter to the person swinging the sledgehammer.

          The better plan would be to fix what’s broken, I admit it may be too late though.

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            If the rest of America is going to let it happen then again that’s what they deserve

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              You are horrible for wishing this on us when the majority of us didn’t vote for this and never have voted for this. Your ignorance is embarrassing.

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            Well the USians have always been content to limp on a broken system, impotent to change it to a modern democracy. It’s not something that happened overnight or something we can blame ‘the Democrats’ for. It’s a failure of the people

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          I would like to take this opportunity to remind people that Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote, more than half the country wants nothing to do with him. The GOP has been playing the gerrymandering game to great effect to the degree that their candidates can lose the popular vote but still win the election.

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            You have to put the fucking stupid loser asshats who didn’t vote because <pearl clutching reason> into that basket of people who voted for him. We, the voters, have to do a better fucking job voting, specifically in the primaries. Something is really broken when 80% of voters don’t like the job congress is doing…then they reelect the same god damn awful representatives.

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        He has a tell when he is lying. It’s a bit tricky to spot, but when he opens his mouth you can tell he is lying

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          Not always true. He told the world he wanted to be a dictator. That he had help rigging the election. That he was going to deport all the immigrants, legal or otherwise.

          All true, and all happening. A lot of his followers thought those were lies though, because that was more convenient than admitting they had been had by a conman.

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            Agreed. I think a better summary would be to say if that he tells you what he is going to do, it’s usually true. Everything else before and after that is usually a lie.

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              I’d say, if what he says he’s going to do is going to benefit him personally in any way. He’s going to do it. If it doesn’t, it’s complete bullshit.

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    He does want you to see it. Otherwise it would be visually blocked like most historical buildings do in D.C. when going through reconstruction.