• SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
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    who is in her circle telling her that this is a good idea? Does she not have any close friends who can speak plainly to her?

    You would think having lost to an actual piece of shit would be enough of a reality check. Just stop… ffs. The best thing Kamala can do is fade into obscurity like Al Gore.

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    She was not a bad candidate: a smart, fun, relatively young centrist. Her candidacy was dragged down mostly by Biden’s reluctance to tap out and by Trump barely surviving an assassination. Without either of those two things (especially the latter) she might very well have been the first female US president.

    If she really becomes the candidate, the way to victory is for her not to embrace the woke left (especially the fucking morons who worked against her because they hallucinated some crazy Gaza things), and go for the center more clearly. Of course she’ll need to denounce the far right as well, but somehow I imagine that won’t be a problem for a D candidate.

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      The problem is that worldwide this is not a time for centrism. Promising “nothing will fundamentally change” is a great way to immediately lose an election.

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        Embracing centrism, like real centrism and not some Joe Rogan “centrism” would be an amazing change compared to the current situation. I agree that it’s never an easy thing to sell though.

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      the woke left

      And that’s the point at which you discredited yourself.

      because they hallucinated some crazy Gaza things

      Arms-length complicity in genocide is nearly as bad as open promotion of it.

      and go for the center more clearly

      And where’s that center again? Splitting the difference between run-of-the-mill corporatist Democrats and MAGA fascists? Running concentration camps for asylum seekers, but with slightly better towels and soap? Nobody will vote for MAGA Lite. If a voter wants fascism, they’ll go for the full-fat version.

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    Fuck it, let her. She had to drop out of the 2020 primary before voting started because she was on track to lose every single state, and she clearly hasn’t become more electable since then. All she could possibly do is siphon some votes and donor money off Newsom or Buttigieg. If that’s what she wants to do, I fully support that.

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      The won’t get the nomination. At most just maybe make some noise during the convention. Pretty sure the DNC has already decided to force Newsome through.

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      Yes we don’t need to know this, she flopped so hard against a convicted felon.

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    You guys don’t understand, she lost because people forgot how bad trump was, this time people will fall in line

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    She gone lose again. When she ran the first time she lost before primaries and when she was forced upon us last year she lost then too.

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    If Kamala is the next candidate she will lose. This time democrats can’t simply pick a ‘status quo’ and establishment candidate. They need a person at a minimum moderatly left, a bit anti-establishment and they need to focus on universal healthcare, and then actually solve it. Then they will win the election after that again.

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    Holy fuck, listen I plugged my nose and voted for her last time just like I did with Hillary and Biden, but I am absolutely not voting for Harris a second time. If that happens, the only “enabler” is the Democratic establishment and I don’t want to fucking hear “vote blue no matter who” after all this Mamdani shit. Stupid god damn fucking liberals, Jesus Christ.

    / rant

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      i voted for Waltz on the hope that maybe Harris would have some unfortunate accident early on and maybe we’d get an actual pro-labour president for once.

      now…I just hope Mamdani sweeps NYC’s mayor race and maybe that wakes up progressives across the country, showing just how pathetically weak the establishment’s control is right now across the board if they can’t even keep a key NYC post.

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          Who the fuck knows, it’s all in that annoying little fucker’s username lol. Maybe when he rolls off the dive bar floor tomorrow morning he can tell us.

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            I’d imagine they’re saying that not voting for Kamala is, in effect, not voting AGAINST the GOP.

            So in that case, I think they mean the apology would be to everyone for allowing the GOP to win again.

            Just explaining what I think they’re saying, not saying I agree or disagree with that sentiment.

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      She secretly paid by the GOP so they can secure that 3rd term

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    I will not vote again for Kamala Harris, nor for any other ordinary, boring, middle-of-the-road Democrat. “Vote blue no matter who” brought us to this point, where Democrats are so spineless and compromised, only a handful of elected Dems are willing to oppose fascism. Never again, for me. Give me a candidate worth voting for — that’s the only way to get my vote.

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      Let’s remove the dictator first, then we can work on the Party. Harris is a bad choice either way.

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      So if 2028 rolls around and you’re presented with a ballot with the choices “Donald Trump” and “Kamala Harris” on it for president, you’ll not vote for Kamala Harris?

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        If he’s on the ballot again then it’s all over anyway. That would be a third term and would need to be in a war time. So, if he’s on the ballot in 28’, we either have a war happening on our soil or, he’s going full traitor and the elections will be for nothing more than show.