• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      Yeah, that’s the problem here; the lack of respect for the symbols of American Civil religion

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      bro they’ve been winning all year, this is winning to them, they don’t care who the person really is so long as they can imagine it’s somebody they don’t like

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    I remember being told the second amendment was necessary for Americans to defend themselves from a tyrannical government.

    “That could never happen here” they said about government brutality in other countries.

    Now kids have to fear mass shooters in school and fascist shooters in parking lots.

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      Who would have thought all the “don’t tread on me” posturing, was actually “come on my back, daddy” sensibility.

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      You were lied to by the gun lobby. The second amendment people are clearly on the side of ICE. Guns work as an oppressive force to prevent people from stopping ICE, not the other way around.

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    The world will be a better place when the people eager to work for ICE are dead or in prison.

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      Hopefully, I will get to refer some to Mr. Satan. He has the best facilities for holding the irredeemable, I hear.

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    Weapon is visible at 0:06, appears to be a paintball gun. Unclear if it’s pepper balls or something else.

    Still illegal use of force, but thank goodness it’s not bullets.

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      Eventually, someone will panic and shoot back, then they’ll put away the non-lethal and start killing people, for safety reasons. For examples see any interaction with local police.

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      Almost certainly pepper balls. I don’t know what else it could be. It’s something powdered at least, and that’s the only thing I know of that acts like that fired out of that weapon.

      But yeah, I read the title and assumed gunpowder bullets. It sucks that we’re thankful for “only” this level of violence.

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        depending on where you are, using a paintball gun as a weapon gets it treated as a firearm

        and if somebody’s shooting at you with a firearm, you goddamn well have the right to shoot back. or at least that’s what I’ve been told about the US by the people who voted for this kind of shit to happen

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        If some masked asshole is pointing a weapon at you while standing in front of your SUV, floor it.

        This isn’t going to stop until ICE actually gets the response Puppy Killer keeps saying they’re getting.

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          They would have killed here if she did this.m, possibly killing her kids in the process.

          I hope a lawyer gets ahold of her to sue ICE hard for harassment, assault, endangering her family, and whatever else they can.

          Start taking millions in settlements, it’s better that dying during an escalation.

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            As long as it’s taking everything the agents involved and their leadership own instead of just stacks of cash from taxpayers.

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    Im really nostalgic for the time when I did not have specific examples of why the fourth and fifth amendments are so important.

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      It came. It’s been there for months already. This won’t lead to some final epic showdown for democracy. Democracy lost the battle this time.

      This fascism won’t be voted away and the millions of assholes it emboldened now know how to do it again and face no consequences.

      If this is fixable it’ll take decades to fix.

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              We DON’T know what you’re talking about. Because you just said the most vague nonexplaintory “It’s coming”, with zero context or followup. I could say “It’s coming”, and in MY head I’m talking about game 6 of the world series. I would know what I mean, but if I said it in a post about fascism, people would assume I’m saying fascism is coming. Which it’s not, because it’s already here.

              That’s where everybody else’s confusion stems from about your comments.

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        Hey, but we needed to teach the dems a lesson about palestine, by making everything significantly worse! I was principled! Principled!!!

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          Damn, poor baby; a fraction of the horror you supported committing to foreigners had returned home to affect you. Maybe you shouldn’t have spent decades loudly demonstrating that you fully consider this kind of thing fully acceptable under the assumption no-one would ever do it to you.

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          At least you didn’t have to live in a world where people had the option to vote for an anti-genocide candidate.

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          If you still think protest voters impacted the 2024 election, you are deepthroating propaganda pushed to make you hate young people

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            If you think people who didnt vote didnt contribute to the problem idk what to tell you about basic math, because 1 vote is definitely more than no votes.

            They are not the only issue, but they definitely helped us get to where we are.

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              You should look at the voting partiction history of this country and stop whining about the people that the rich want you to hate instead of them.

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                Oh, little buddy. I do hate the rich as well.

                Two things can be a problem at the same time. You can hold two individual thoughts in your head at the same time, can’t you?

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                  Oh, little buddy. I do hate the rich as well.

                  You just don’t blame them for anything because you have people to your left that you actually hate as designated scapegoats.

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          Shut the fuck up already. No one is happy about this but I hope they come for your ilk first.

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          Even if every protest voter voted for Kamala, she would not have come close. Do the bare minimum of analysis before bleating out establishment propaganda you saw on digg.

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              Dem with absolute refusal to address the issues within, I’m not shocked at all.

              Official uncommitted count was just over 700k, and she lost by 2 million. Both parties lost substantial amounts of votes compared to 2020, but Dems lost way more. Repugs lost 2 million, and Dems lost 10 million voters, comparatively.

              Uncommitted was not the problem, it was one problem for Dems. A far bigger problem was not holding a primary election in good faith.

              Here’s a shocker for you: when these dipshits anoint yet another corporate stooge who obviously doesn’t give a fuck about people’s material living conditions and policy desires, they lose. Apparently you should get used to it.

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                The president is elected via the electoral college. Trump’s margin of electoral college victory, 86 votes, was in line with historically tight races — including 2020, 2016 and 2004 — and is smaller than the winning margins of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and George H.W. Bush. Trump’s margin was nowhere close to those in historic landslide elections, such as Ronald Reagan’s in 1984 and Nixon’s in 1972, who both had electoral-college margins above 500 votes. Stay in china or russia, or wherever your cave is.

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                  In my cave, we abolish the electoral college and don’t put up with superdelegate nonsense stealing noms from progressives.

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                  Stay in china or russia, or wherever your cave is.

                  BlueMAGA are just fascists; blaming foreigners for all their countries problems like the McCarthyist white supremacists they are