Bernie is ultimately pretty practical as opposed to political. So he is not going to bother jumping on a bandwagon that does not do very much even if he personally may like to see him gone he cares more about stopping the current facism steamroll and getting real social progression. I don’t really know AOC that well.
Bernie isn’t a Democrat.
Are you sure? He had no problems endorsing Biden all day
Yes, I’m sure.
So he cannot call for Trump to resign because he is not a Republican right?
Don’t ask me to run apology for partisan politics, I’m telling you why an Independent isn’t included in a list of Democrats.
You could do a lot of good in the world if you channel that righteous aggression somewhere other than your peers.
Bernie isn’t caling for Schumer to be replaced even without being a Democrat. Which makes it worse not better.
He simply stated he wasn’t sure who could/should replace him.
Chris Van Hollen? Rashida Tlaib? Like what is a progressive squad supposed to be if they advocate for Chuck Schumer instead of the "progressives"m
Dumb, the post is specifically saying DEMS who have stated he should resign.
Its like asking why there aren’t any republicans on this list.
Of course he can, and if you complain about the post saying Bernie wasn’t listed, the list was explicitly Dems, not just everyone. I didn’t check but if it’s all senators then there’s a solid reason why AOC isn’t included, since she’s not that either.
He votes and acts like one.
Always ready to be a shepherd when called upon by the elites.
Don’t forget 2016 and 2020.
What do liberals and leftists have in common?
They both love fighting with leftists.
At least you understand liberalism is a right wing ideology
Another Liberal pretending to be a Leftist.
Who?
Also notable are the Dems completely dodging the question when asked. Senator Kelly for example pivoted to what he thought Dems needed to do going forward as far as fighting for the American people when ask if Schumer should be replaced, without explicitly saying he should. So it’s pretty clear that the sentiment is starting to be fairly widespread, but whether it really goes anywhere remains to be seen.
The sentiment isn’t widespread, they want to keep him in power. But they will give some placades for the masses to pretend to oppose Schumer.
Look at their actions, not their words.
Just vote them all out every single one, left or right leaning, Democrats, Republicans, judges, everyone. Vote for change at every opportunity.
That’s how you get grifters running purely on anti-establishment without any real platform other than enriching themselves.
Its hard, but we need to look at the people we are electing and what we do and don’t like about what they’re doing and if they can’t be pushed into a direction that works for us, then we give them the boot.
And that result is different then the grifters we currently get? I call bullshit on your conclusion good sir.
No, its saying take a second to think about what we actually want in a politician, then pushing for those people instead of blindly throwing the baby out with the bathwater, voting for another douche bag who has no platform beyond being anti-establishment, then wondering why things are somehow getting worse.
I feel like what you’re hearing from me is “vote blue no matter who” what I’m actually saying is that government won’t be fixed by pure cynicism, you need to actually have an opinion about how you want it to function, and I assure you there are probably some people out there who support that vision. If the people representing you do not, then by all means vote them out but also support someone who most closely aligns to what you do want.
We tried it your way and it didn’t work. Flush them all till the working classes lives improve.
When have we tried voting as an informed electorate? It doesn’t matter how many times we throw them out if we don’t pay attention to who we’re letting in. What you’re proposing is endlessly shuffling a deck and expecting it to magically be sorted after enough shuffles.
The number of morons I’ve talked to whose entire understanding of politics and policy boils down to them saying “government can’t do anything!” or “the two sides just need to come together” infuriates me. We need people to have actual opinions based in reality of both lived experience and informing themselves through things like news stories or town halls, even if its only for a few weeks around voting season. Without that we’re just going to have a revolving door of grifters each one leaving with nice full pockets each time they leave.
Cool so you’re idea is wait 100 years to educate the general population on, logic, health, critical thinking, civics, etc … Let me know how that works out as I will be long dead.
Oh no, if we vote out the grifters, then a grifter might get elected.
No, I’m saying arbitrarily burning everything down without actually thinking about our politics is a recipe for making the same mistakes as last time.
How did the last candidate who promised to drain the swamp end up?
Oh nooo don’t burn down the opposition party.
They might throw us one of those bones they keep waving in front of our noses.
They never have, but maybe if we deepthroat Neoliberalism hard enough it will work this time!
I see nuance is difficult for you.
I don’t think you have a nuanced view of politics if you aknowledge there is a controlled opposition party and you think that they will allow the status quo to change.
Said nothing of the sort. Good luck.
People need to realize that the American people were just sold out by the Dems again.
And yet again, the progressives and leftists support the party that just openly sold out the American people because they are too cowardly to meaningfully oppose them.
Honestly it’s probably better that they stay quiet and let the establishment Dems get rid of him.
So many weird cope comments here
Seth Moulton is an opportunist. Don’t mistake him calling for his removal as anything more than a slimy play.
I agree Schumer should be removed, but I do not think Moulton genuinely does. He sucks.c
If even the opportunists are calling for him to be removed, but the loyalists refuse to, what does that tell you?
If you ask me that’s the last straw. No AOC and no Bernie on this, just holy crap.
If I was American I’d be voting ONLY in the democratic primaries and then boycotting the general when an establishment shill is put forth.
thats pretty much what got us where we are. republicans have not won majorities or when when voter turnout is high since reagan. This is if we dig down deep enough we can get to the surface thinking. I mean I would vote john mccain over donald trump in a head to head.
Yeah giving the GOP a clear run at a win is a sure way to see the change you want implemented!
Vote blue no matter who is the most sickening slogan.
It suggests they are entitled to your vote, even if they ignore the will of the people in the primaries.
“If you don’t vote for the billionaire owned Neoliberal then you get the billionaire owned Conservative”
Yeah, no, we need to end this cycle where these two parties keep us as slaves.
The Dems have proven multiple times they aren’t interested in helping people, we now have to take their power away and give it to someone who will.
We absolutely do need to end the cycle yes, but putting the GOP in absolute power isn’t going to make that happen, and it’s going to make a lot of things a lot worse for a lot of people in the process. Your sense of righteous indignation at the two party system doesn’t help people being black bagged by masked secret police and getting sent off to camps.
The GOP has had complete power my entire life. We are living in that reality.
If it wasn’t for the Republicans passing laws that help the rich or Republicans blocking everything the Dems do, then the Dems might actually be held accountable for their failures.
I agree we should try something different than the status quo
