• ceoofanarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 hours ago

    Expand public transportation towards the goal of banning personal cars nothing but giant space hoarding, planet destroying death machines.

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      10 hours ago

      Until everyone outside city limits has transportation to get to or to do work, it’s not a viable option.

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        4 hours ago

        Then start with the cities. Make them more human, more livable. They have the largest population and would have the most impact, anyway.

        Nothing has to be a blanket solution and aiming for a goal doesn’t mean the goal is fixed or has to be reached immediately.

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        9 hours ago

        Yeah, I’m a big public transport supporter, I never owned a car and so forth, but the transport options outside of city limits are always crap. I haven’t found a good solution yet, and definitely never saw one implemented.

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          9 hours ago

          I holidayed in a village in France and got around fine by a mix of bus, bike and train, and it looked ok to do that if you lived there and worked, but most of the locals still drove because there were occasional journeys where cars really helped and once you decide to sink €000s into a car, it’s then cheap to use it for each extra journey instead of wait for a bus or train, or take time to pedal or walk a bit to stops.

          So I think it could be possible even in villages, but some services will need making easier to reach without cars.

          I certainly know plenty of places where local governments aren’t even trying, of course.

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        8 hours ago

        No, that’s ass-backwards. You have to stop catering to drivers first in order to incite them to support building the transit. Politically, it does not, can not, and never will work the other way around.

        Your argument is nothing more than disingenuous support for the car-dependent status quo.