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        13 hours ago

        Would you like to guess how many recently graduated dctors also believed in the same childish rhetoric? A worrying amount. Like genuinely made me worried that low level propaganda gets through better than basic medical facts which doctors of all specialisations should understand.

        It’s line claiming heroin doesn’t cause dependence. That Oxycontin doesn’t cause addiction.

        You know that pharmacompanies have strongly pushed both of this. Yet you won’t question literally half the population having a neurodevelopmental disorder, because YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HAVING ONE MEANS.

        The percentage of increased diagnosis through increased information is the same for every other neurodevelopmental disorder except attention disorders. Those have supposedly grown quadruple the amount that any other neurodevelopmental disorder has in the same time. (That is, in roughly the past 100 years to account for enough change.)

        Anyone who’s having a hard time understanding that attention disorders are overdiagnosed is a gullible moron. That includes all the doctors who argued I have it. Despite me showing I was alway literally the best in my class, without any disturbances, nor problems, not any I subjectively experienced or that the teacher would’ve noted. I also went through roughly 10 different schools, and has a large sampling of teachers and classes.

        Never heard anything about any attention disorders before the age of 25, a bit more than a decade ago, when all this bullshit pushing began.

        To not be able to see when someone is pushing drugs on you for no reason is gullibility to the max.

        Its ludicrous.

        Oh and yeah, the past few years young doctors haven’t pushed the adhd rhetoric on me. Had to waste an entirely afternoon proving I don’t have it with clinical psychologists and my mom there to verify what I’m saying.

        But you know it’s overdiagnosed, but as long as society accepts it as your meds and not something you just crave, youre gucci, right?

        Roflmao

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            Wow, what an insightful argument that totally proves me wrong.

            I’m not here to convince anyone. I’m just pointing out very simple facts. It’s not your choice if you believe it or not. You’ll still know it.

            I’m not against adults using methylphenidate if they feel a benefit from it.

            But don’t try to have your cake and eat it too. You’re taking the meds because you’re addicted, not because you need them. If you actually have a disorder and need them, then thats different. But most of the people taking them don’t.

            Facts are facts no matter what you feel about them. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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              If you’ve made one thing absolutely clear it’s that a reasonable argument won’t change your mind, I very much doubt anything would, you didn’t come to this opinion using logic nor being rational, neither of those are useful tools in this situation, you’re a no win scenario, there is no reason to try to communicate. I’ve got a sister like you, I’ve learned how it works. No, I just enjoy watching crazy people talk crazy and poking the bear when I have the option of tuning out and blocking them when I’m bored with it. It’s something meaningful you have to offer.

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                If you’ve made one thing absolutely clear it’s that a reasonable argument won’t change your mind

                You haven’t even tried unreasonable arguments, my man. So no, that high-roading doesn’t work.

                How about you try to address any of the arguments I’ve made.

                Unless you’re just a pathetic speedjunkie?

                I know drugs and abuse and neurodivergence more than you, I’ll bet my left testicle on it. So why is it that you don’t believe in the documented deep corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, nor can you address why attention disorders have grown more than 350% more than ANY other neurodevelopmental disorder?

                Face it. You’re just a junkie.

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                  You love shotgunning out those assumptions, huh? Absolutely no doubt that you’re right about everything that spills out of your stupid fucking mouth, that kind of confidence is enviable, even if all you’re using for is a loudspeaker to let is all know how dumb and crazy you are.

                  Just for kicks, have you considered that there are people who deal with the realities of ADHD without any prescriptions or drugs or interest in drug treatment for the symptoms? Do you think that, maybe, ADHD exists outside of any sort of pharmaceutical influence or considerations? Or are you just saying there’s absolutely no such thing as ADHD and nobody actually deals with it as part of their every day lives?

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                    Just for kicks, have you considere

                    “But won’t you please have empathy for the undiagnosed!!!”

                    I have empathy for anyone whos suffering from bad practices in medicine. Like being diagnosed as having a neurodevelopmental disorder without any reason.

                    Just for kicks, have you considered that doctors are actually people? People who live in the same shitty ad-filled capitalist shitfuckery we do? Or are you saying that having an MD makes you infallible and perfect? (oh look, I can ask irrational bullshit as well)

                    Where have even remotely implied I don’t believe in attention disorders? Saying something is OVERDIAGNOSED is NOT synonymous with saying something is “completely fictional”, is it?

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              The irony of saying “Facts are facts” when yours come straight out of your ass and are based entirely on how you feel.

              Fact: You have nothing to back up what you’re spouting.

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                11 hours ago

                The increase in attention disorders is more than 350% more than any other neurodevelopmental disorder.

                You’re literally pretending like corruption doesn’t exist. Childish beyond reason.

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                    11 hours ago

                    Based on… you not liking it?

                    Tell me honestly, since reading my comment, have you tried verifying any knowledge in it? Because I left it out on purpose. Because I know you wouldn’t open it even if I had added a source. And you definitely haven’t read any science on this whole subject.

                    You just know you won’t give up daily stimulant usage, no matter what.

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        Oh and there’s the first to signal disagreement without being able to say anything except “wyaaa I don’t like you pointing out facts wyaaa”

        Look up what a neurodevelopmental disorder is. Just because pharmaceutical grade speed makes you less tired doesn’t mean you have a neurodevelopmental disorder.

        The worst part isn’t your delusions, it’s having to listen to you trying to rationalise wanting to take speed.

        And even actual professionals buy this shit it’s ridiculous

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            Wow what an amazing argument. Makes so much sense, and isn’t just you diamissing me because you know I’m saying a thing people disagree with and which you don’t actually have to argue against.

            Because you can’t. ;>>>>>

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      I don’t think ADHD meds are prescribed for increasing energy. In fact, they can reduce hyperactivity and impulsive behaviour.

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        “stimulants aren’t actually stimulants, they’re actually relaxants”

        I genuinely thought your rhetoric couldn’t get worse. Next you’ll argue how “I know a guy who has a totally opposite reaction to stimulants than everyone else”. No they don’t, you just don’t understand the basics of neuroscience

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          A dopamine excess and a dopamine dearth can have similar effects on behaviour. Meds that increase dopamine will have an adverse reaction on one and a normalising reaction on the other.

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            And having a disorder in your dopamine system does not equate to having a neuroDEVELOPMENTAL disorder.

            Just like I’ve said, if you like doing methylphenidate and it helps you, go ahead, I’m not gonna judge. But give it a rest with the pathetic excuses.

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            Wow that’s such a massively insightful article that I can’t help but to gaze in awe.

            RFK jr does whatever makes him the most money and what he happens to like, fuck science.

            Exactly like you. You can’t even manage an unreasonable argument, let alone a reasonable one.

            Adhd is neurodevelopmental disorder. And seemingly it’s increased more than 350% more than other neurodevelopmental disorders. And it’s being pushed even on people who have literally no signs of it.

            But hey, you can’t let it go, so we should change science to accommodate your addiction! /s