Just here to say, fuck reddit.
I’m glad I never made an account on Reddit. The whole vibe of the site just throws me off completely. The snark subs were one of those reasons
The same reddit that allowed to nuke my account based on false bot claims and then refused to roll it back even though the perpetrators conveniently deleted their accounts shortly afterwards? checks out
At least you had bots, I had an actual mod of a huge sub report me to admins because I asked why I was banned for quoting someone’s comment and then reporting them for hate, 12 years of good standing and a stint as a mod also just flushed because the site is managed by unpaid child labor.
sorry to hear that. reddit is a lost cause at this point.
Reddit Admins hate user interactions. User interactions cost more money to oversee than passive readers.
Much of Reddit policy boils down to “get unsponsored users off our platform”. They don’t want your comments. They don’t want your posts. They don’t want your drama. They don’t want your input. They want you to show up, look at the sponsored links, maybe click a few, validate the advertisers’ spending on media influence, then keep fucking scrolling.
If you’re doing anything other than that, you’re a net lose to the company and you are uninvited from the platform.
Its a bit like going into a casino and winning money. Casinos don’t exist to pay you. Social Media doesn’t exist to platform you. You’re supposed to be a revenue generator, not a cost center. If you behave otherwise, the business will cut you just like they try to cut every other net-negative expense.
makes sense. too bad reddit turned out that way though. but then again - was there ever a platform that didn’t went to shit? Steve Hoffman’s forum is probably the only place that dodged the bullet mostly because it’s a bunch of nerds comparing high frequencies on Frank Zappa remasters
The same reddit that allows subreddit mods to get you banned site-wide on a whim
i got my account nuked right after some burner account started asking me to add them to my sub. after politely declining, dude just went on comment bombing spree, so i banned him and them my account got stalked into permaban. Which is stupid because I don’t post political stuff
I’ve only ever seen this message sent to harass people
“are you ok?”
I figured that was the intended purpose.
Agreed, I got many of these for being active in politics subs
Those shit comics is on here now too?
“now” is odd phrasing from an 8 day old account.
I think I’ve seen this artist’s work posted here for over a year.
Some of us tried really hard not to let these drama-drenched nothing comics take over here, but it seems enough of the community thinks “relatable” is substitution for humor or substance, so here are. I’ve blocked some of the accounts that post PCC and similar garbage, but unfortunately you have a few users like King here who I don’t want to block because they do actually participate in the greater Lemmy community but unfortunately also mass-post a bunch of garbage like this low-effort because I’m sure some people think bad content is better than no content. 🤷
Who is she? Context?
semi controversial “popular” comic artist on reddit. she also has an onlyfans. I kinda feel people like her comics purely because of the other stuff she does. a sort of para-social “notice me senpai”.
I’ve seen her comic pop up here and there regularly. They’re pretty basic and uncontroversial. The art is… fine. Family Circus tier material.
Didn’t even know she had an onlyfans. I can’t imagine people are flocking to “Reddit is run by assholes” content because she flashed her tits online. You don’t really need one to get the other.
She’s a cartoonist I’ve seen on Reddit, I personally don’t find her funny, but I am not a cartoonist and I must scream
She’s also kind of a shit person and this comic is really quite ironic coming from her
I have seen this sentiment before and nobody’s been able to say exactly why she’s a “shit person.” What did she do?
I don’t know if she’s done anything per se, but the reason I find her obnoxious is that most of her cartoons are of the format seen here, i.e. a strip in which she has an argument with someone and wins. Often the argument will be a fairly unsophisticated easy target, but will check the performative boxes required to get those shares and upvotes.
Also - as seen again in this very strip - there’s often a persecution/victim complex subtext at play, that never fails to get all the parasocial white knights riled up (edit: and it still seems to work over here too depressingly)
If Kelly from The Onion ever got rebooted as a social media liberal, it’d probably look a lot like her.
So she didn’t actually do anything bad, you just don’t like her style. I’m not sure exactly how being a successful but mid cartoonist makes you a “shit person” but I guess that’s where we are in society.
I didn’t say she didn’t do anything bad, I said I don’t know what she did. Others have in the meantime filled you in, but you’re tripping over yourself trying to get indignant over the answers to a question that you yourself framed in a loaded fashion.
I don’t think your dismissive characterisation of my position is particularly accurate either, which suggests your original question may not have been entirely in good faith…
My question was “what did she do that makes her a bad person” and you replied to my question with some vibe stuff, which I summarized, and now you’re butthurt? It’s okay to not like her comics, and that’s all I’ve read that she’s done bad.
I don’t get the big deal, I am not hiding that. Does that make my question in bad faith? Or does that make the way I summarized it hurt your feelings? I do not care, I just get really weirded out seeing internet hate campaigns against people who are fine and haven’t hurt anyone.
She tried to sue reddit mods a while ago.
I’m not that deep into that drama and don’t know why it started and what the outcome was.
wait thats based. Wtf I love pizzacomics now
Ah, reddit mods. Truly the most underprotected class who don’t deserve such foul hassles due to their unimpeachable history and consistent, upstanding behavior.
She threatened to sue people for saying they didn’t like her comics on her subreddit.
From what I’m reading, this became a cycle of “I’m going to report you to the Admins for being mean” / “I’m going to be even meaner because you reported me to the Admins” hate that culminated in the internet-standard doxing and revenge-porn-ing before it went legal.
For some reason, the practice of reposting people’s OnlyFans material outside the paywall in an effort to humiliate them is… fine? But getting lawyers involved over the release is over the line?
I have only ever seen the “Harm prevention” report used exclusively for the purpose of harassment on Reddit. I’m talking like 99.99999% of the time. Everything about that: from the corporate flavored, performative bullshit to the superficially empathetic, and conspicuously caring, two-faced nature of the whole thing really pisses me off. I would prefer if they were just honest about not giving a fuck, frankly.
I think it’s because people know that those who really need that kind of help aren’t going to benefit from some corporate approved form “we care!” message.
So the people who use it are either the “wants to be helpful but is very bad at determining who needs help and how to help” type or the trolling type.
This is ironic considering the source. Didn’t she go crying to Reddit admins to stop people from sharing anything negative about her? I recall people being banned for simply saying they through her comics were low-hanging-fruit and generic.
yes. also a while ago I believe someone on Reddit came up with “proof” that she was also paying a PR type of company to upvote and post positive comments on her posts. Take it with a grain of salt but their proof was essentially people that would comment on her posts ONLY used reddit to comment on her comic posts.
Not a fan or her work or her onlyfans “work” but meh she does play the system well I’ll give her that.
Lol, that service do more harm than good, it’s been used by others to harass people they don’t like, and people who are suicidal doesn’t really care about a bot reply. It’s essentially useless gesture.
It’s to protect Reddit from liability. Someone offing themselves is also the alleged reason for their zero tolerance policy.
Anyone else had this bot sent to them as harassment in itself? Fucking disgusting
Many times. Interestingly enough, mostly after being critical towards the alt-right (Nazis, Fascists, MAGA).
The perfidious idea is to remind potential suicides about the possibility. Imagine being that hateful.
Got one for the same reasons.
It made me laugh when it was in response to someone getting mad at me after arguing, but occasionally I’d make a highly upvoted comment that was related to being trans or gay and then get them, and that pissed me off. It’s not possible to prove that’s what happened without access to server logs of course, but I for sure wasn’t talking about being depressed or suicidal or anything like that on Reddit, and it was suspicious at minimum.
I had it sent legitimately by people. Obviously, I was a wreck.
which is ironic since those messages originate from people doing it to harass people
the only time I’ve seen reddit cares deployed was by chuds harassing people.
It’s fun that it’s been weaponized to report people who you don’t like.
SUPER duper, SO fun!🤪
“Someone thinks you may be suicidal” translates to “you hurt someone’s feelings at some point”
I always knew I had won an argument when they stopped replying and I got the Reddit cares message. If the ‘report abuse’ link that was in those messages ever led to consequences I never saw it.
I’ve never heard of a single instance of someone getting a ban for abusing Reddit Cares, which is particularly bad given how easy it is to report and prove.
The new R*dditIsFun™
There has never been a place or moment where that wasn’t a thing. People suck, and any tools like that will always be misused. There’s a reason reporting people anywhere isn’t an automatic and immediate thing.
Oh, PC is in no position to criticise Reddit for spreading snark and negativity.
No one said snark is bad, just some of the things snarky subreddits allow.
Ya, she was one only of the few comic artists I blocked as the comics never had any humor, just snark.
Metahumour/inside jokes for a different website/community doesn’t work.
It would be nice if we didn’t bring reddits controversies over here. We got real stuff to talk about. Not some he said / she said deal.
Especially when it’s in response to the recent discussions about how she bots her posts to reach the front page everytime, has arrangements with the mods of the sub to remove any negative comments, tried to sue another sub for making parodies of her comics(and getting mods to ban anyone who mentions that sub in comics), makes ridiculous strawman arguments constantly(like this one), and how she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans.
She’s a parasite on the comics community and she’s finally starting to be called out for it, which is why you’re seeing comics like this to try and get ahead of it. She’s just trying to shift the drama to something besides her actions. She’s hoping reframe all of her criticisms as just a bunch of maga/incel harassment instead of actually addressing any of it.
I wouldn’t go that far.
Every comic is a back and forth with a mental strawman. If you want to appeal to a bunch of self-righteous people on their soapboxes, daring the world to prove them wrong, well… guess what you’re drawing?
If I had to wager, she knows full well and is sick of this format but has locked in to a point of no return.
She should unironically go all-in with it and make a Straw Man character for her comic identity to constantly wage war with, like a Robbie Rotten.
I can’t find any information on this aside from Reddit threads and youtube vids based on reddit threads.
Are you expecting BBC coverage or something?
I don’t know what Big Black… oh. Wait……
CNN, at least.
Who the fuck else would care about this?
she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans.
I haven’t really decided how I feel about this. Is it legit? I could see either opinion. It certainly drives her to make whatever comics that appeal to the masses. They function as an advertisement, and I know how I feel about advertisements.
If I’m curating something that I’d publish, there’s no way in hell I’d include her stuff. Banning it from a platform is a number of steps farther than that, though.
Artists need to make money, and there are certainly projects I appreciate where I’d encourage the artist’s method of making money. Where to find the line between the art as advertising for money and the money as funding for the art is an interesting discussion. You can absolutely tell in her case, but she shows that the line is blurry.
You have links to those discussions? Love breaking out popcorn once in a while.
That’s a lot of drama around a rather unremarkable comic.
I love it
Lots of outrageous accusations without any evidence, with a bit of misogynistic sex shaming to top it off. Methinks you’re full of shit.
Do you know where I can see/read that they’re not telling the truth?
nah, not misogyny. Using r/comics for profit and advertising. Something we used to shame people for. I don’t give a fuck if she’s showing off her butthole. Power to her. But don’t manipulate your position in the subreddit for your own gains and then act like an innocent angel when called out and get people banned for bringing it up.
Using r/comics for profit and advertising. Something we used to shame people for.
should we, though? reddit is kind of trash anyway.
I don’t see why self-promotion should rustle anyone’s jimmies.
Still nothing but your word that she’s “manipulating” anyone or anything.
And, breaking news, everyone uses that sub for advertising. Do you also get this self-righteous when creators link their patreon or other socials? How exactly is OF different?
You seem to want to laser focus on one part of this instead of the whole thing. You’re not trying to discuss in good faith. Just argue. As such, fuck you, I’m not engaging. Go look it up if you actually care.
I looked it up. I can’t find anything except people furiously agreeing in some hate-filled reddit ouroborus without a beginning. Can you link to something substantial, that isn’t reddit comments or videos about reddit comments?
From what I’ve seen, she posts crowd-pleasing media, seems to like online attention, has been cool with people reworking her comics, lost her shit for a week or so at one point, and has an onlyfans.
How do you know she has bots?
Who would be talking about this except redditors? Your request makes no sense.
“Laser focus”, lol. You tried to justify the OF accusation and I explained why that’s bs.
As for the “whole thing”, your word doesn’t prove anything and your outright refusal to provide even an ounce of evidence for your deluge of accusations suggests I’m not the one acting in bad faith here.
You don’t have to be a full blown redditor, just not be blind. Most of these accusations are easy to verify just by looking at her posts.
She regularly make self pity posts because “people are mean” (aka they don’t lick her boots), where she explicitly advertised her only fan. Last such post had 17k karma within 2 hours. Seems fishy no ?
She even boasted about gaining lots of follower after making rage bait and having her OF boosted by the engagement.
Comics moderators are known to be simp, and will remove any criticism of her comics, valid or not.
Investigate it yourself and you’ll see what’s going on. Instead you scream because we didn’t provide a ready to eat summary of what’s going on…If you’re going the misogyny call-out route again, just know I held the exact same view of the blind guy that draws his wife nude. Same energy and they both defend each others because they have the exact same tactic to sell porn to teenagers on Reddit.
Not a single word of this sounds good.
Not a single word of it was substantiated by them.
What of it is wrong? Genuine question.
how she uses her comic as a front for her OnlyFans
Why are you trying to make me like her?
It’s annoying because everyone seems to agree that reddit is shit (even people who use it addictively) [yeah that used to be me lol] But people decide it’s sh*t for different reasons… I’m assuming what you say is true, as it rings true, and that means she’s basically pretending to be pissed off at it for “based” reasons when she’s actually annoyed people point out her manipulating the site for profit - one of the main gripes people have with reddit.
The more people that leave Reddit and get on Lemmy the better.
