Advocates call for removal of machines and demand that company speak out against ICE raids in parking lots

A Home Depot in Los Angeles installed three high pitch noise-emitting machines outside to deter day laborers from seeking work there, causing them to suffer headaches and nausea, advocates alleged at a press conference on Wednesday.

The Instituto de Educacion Popular del Sur de California (IDEPSCA), an advocacy organization that helps day laborers, called for the removal of these machines from Home Depot’s Cypress Park location, according to the Los Angeles Times

Advocates for day laborers also demanded that Home Depot speak out against ICE raids in store parking lots. Immigration enforcement agents have repeatedly targeted the Cypress Park location, which is located near one of IDEPSCA’s support hubs, the Times reported.

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    Hanging around in a parking lot hoping to get work sounds strange. Is this a common thing? Does it have to do with working off the books or working without work permit?

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      It is. If you go to Home Depot in the morning you’ll see contractors picking up Hispanic guys to hire for the day

      100% off the books

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      Both and more. There are very few places you can walk into and get a job these days. Many Mexican immigrants come to America and try to work trades jobs to get by because it’s easier than a traditional 9-5 job with citizenship/visa requirements.

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        Are they allowed to be hired or does tht happen off-the-books illegally? Undeclared work around construction is not rare where I’m from but the scale of it just surprises me, that you’d just wait around in a parking lot for work.

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          I live in San Diego, California. where I can literally see the city of Tijuana, Mexico.

          Day laborers would traditionally gather near the entrance of Home Depot or Lowes just beyond their property lines early everyday.

          They will then solicit themselves to customers by offering to do either construction, landscaping, painting, moving or other physical labor jobs for cash paid work of either a half day or a full day.

          They will not do anything less than 4 hours of work because it may result in them not getting another job for the rest of the day. They will often ask for a small amount upfront or at a minimum: a verbal agreement on a total amount to be paid in cash when completed.

          They work hard and do a good job. Now however, they do not congregate in large groups anymore and many are just getting jobs being paid under the table doing gardening or whatever. Anything to stay below ICE’s radar.

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            I’m guessing most of these are people who have come in illegally or otherwise don’t have work permits? It makes more sense that they’re hired for simpler handyman stuff, I was imagining some bigger construction projects where at least where I live they can be pretty strict about checking the paperwork. Off-the-books handyman stuff is somewhat common, but theyre hired through different ways. “I know a guy”, some websites or Facebook groups. Usually it is local or maybe Estonian people who do it because they want to avoid taxes.

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              They do not have any documents, permits or reasonable identification most of the time. They are truly illegal immigrants who came to the USA illegally using what we call Coyotes (Human smugglers) who move humans to the US for a paid fee (very similar to what immigrants coming by boat to the shores of the EU or UK go through in a way).

              They send some or all of their earnings back to Mexico btw. Sometimes the money goes to a wife and kids there, other times it’s for an ailing parent/sibling. They’re truly taking a risk to better their lives.

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          LA county is more populated than most entire states. It’s a numbers game. My husband hired a Home Depot laborer to tile the entire house (before we met) for like 1K. That kind of labor on the books would cost probably 5x that because of overhead.

          I don’t see how it’s possible to police under the table work. Many labor deals fly under the radar because of that fact.

          Now, the downside to hiring cheap labor is that there’s absolutely no recourse should the worker fuck up your house or project. I’d personally never hire someone to do an under the table job for something important like a roof or electrical work.

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      A lot of temp agencies in my area have day laborers on the books, which means they’re supposed to use the verification database, in theory.

      It’s quite common for native - born and immigrants to gather in parking lots where construction, hotel and other service industry supervisors may need an extra employee or crew due to regular hire unforseen absences, or rush projects. For example, a smoker in a non-smoking unit, hotel deep cleaning, or a construction project that won’t get paid because the deadline is too close for the regular crew to finish on time. Also ordinary citizens who may need help moving, or a home repair they thought they could manage on their own but can’t.

      I just foresee this irritating customers, and without forethought.

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      Yeah this is kind of conflicting feelings for me because definitely fuck both megacorps and ICE, but on the other hand I don’t know any other countries where it’s common practice for individuals hang around hardware stores for work.

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      How rich and pampered are you that you don’t notice day laborers hanging around the Home Depot, do you live in LA, what the hell

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        Not the rich kid. More like the government/republikidfucker plant. Notice how every post he made has some mentioning of under the table or off the books or without a permit? He’s trying to get ideas planted about how these workers are shoddy and doing illegal things and undercutting real, licensed, above board workers.

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          Funny how some of you think it’s more likely I’m some government spy instead of not being an American. Get your head out of your ass, the rest of the world exists too.

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            I think we are just surprised you know so little about the rest of the world.

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              Yes how dare I not know about the home depot workers in the Los Angeles. Fucking hell. Get over yourself and realize the rest of the world might work differently to you

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                It’s about how you can’t comprehend undocumented immigrants finding cash work as day labor. Just shows you live in an isolated bubble.

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                  I could comprehend it just fine when someone explained it. I’ve just never heard of this hanging around in parking lot to get work thing before so I was asking what the deal was. What a bubble to live in, not knowing about some Yank thing.

                  Like fuck off dude, stop assuming everyone is American and knows everything about the US. Rest of the world exists too. And you are saying I live in isolated bubble lol

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                    I never made an assumption of your location.

                    Day laborers exist in every country, even Finland, the method of hiring them and the popular industries vary from place to place. In the US, day laborers that work construction and landscape usually hang out at stores that sell those things.

                    This type of work is popular among undocumented people, because it usually pays cash and no one asks many questions. Curiously, the number of undocumented people in the United States is estimated to be almost 150% of the entire population of your tiny little backwater country.

                    It is very clear that your bubble does not extend beyond Finland… And I would suspect even more likely not to the end of your block.

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          This is shocking news to some, it seems. Some of these loons thought I was some government spy for not knowing about hiring work from hardware store parking lot.

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        Why do you think I’m a rich kid? I work construction myself. And not the lucrative work either