It’s weird, I hopped off ML due to how much hate other users were giving me, but I never actually experienced anything from the ML users themselves. I did stay off the politics subs, so that’s maybe why, but it was genuinely quite a chill instance for me.
Anyway I’m on UK now, and people seem to treat me nicer
It’s similar in Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net. Very chill usually, it’s the hatred they get from liberal-aligned instances that sparks all of the drama.
I agree. Whenever there’s a post about .ml users it comes from .world.
I understand if there’s political differences, but they incessantly try to vilify the whole instance.
Early on I poked around ml, and it wasn’t so much hate but more like some really… interesting views on how to organize politically
It boiled down to “unite the workers of the world and seize the means of production”, but like… That was it. No answer to how to do that, or what to do next
The most annoying part was honestly just how hard some of them simp for China and Russia, sometimes even North Korea
Marxists absolutely have advice on how to organize, the problem is that it’s very regional. Some parties are good, others are horrid, but the basics are to find a good organization local to you and join it. Protesting, reading theory, doing direct action and mutual aid, unionizing and striking, all are good ways to organize.
None of us “simp” for the PRC or DPRK, and certainly not for the Russian Federation. We support socialist countries and critically support those working against the US empire.
Marxists do. Ml? It’s like… Unite the workers of the world by teaching then dielectrical materialism!
No… No. That’s not how reality works. You do have to restrict your ideology to reality, I don’t mind if your ideas spill over the sides, but they do have to exist in material reality
I’m not sure I follow your point. The Leninist aspects of Marxism-Leninism are mostly Lenin’s analysis of imperialism, the heights of which capitalism had not quite reached in Marx’s time, and in practical organizational theory. Marxism-Leninism posits that we should create a working class party, study the given conditions of the country we are in (history, contradictions, class struggle) in order to correctly identify the key issues to organize around. In doing so, the working class needs to gradually choose the vanguard party, meaning a vanguard party that fails to do so is no vanguard. Only then, when the conditions of revolution appear, can the vanguard direct the great quantity of the working class to achieve a qualitative change in society, into socialism.
Marxism-Leninism is based on practical struggle, based on reality, on the material world. The point of philosophy is to change the world for the better, not simply understand it. Education is merely one aspect of Marxist-Leninist praxis, used to create more effective revolutionaries, but is by no means the only.
Yeah, I have to admit the anti-US sentiment did align nicely with my eurocentric views. But the pro-Russia and pro-China sentiment did not jell with me very well, and was a factor of why I left
There’s very little disagreement among .ml users because .ml is so heavily moderated. As an insider, it looks like calm waters all around you. But other instances easily see the dissent getting quashed, and only deal with the .ml users spouting insane comments on non-ml communities.
So funny story guys, I was hanging out at a Nazi bar but they weren’t all that bad. In fact, they even bought me some drinks. The real problem was all the people outside the bar that would harass me with comments like, “why are you hanging with Nazis.”
So funny story guys, I was minding my own business at literally the main bar downtown, when a bunch of hard-right nutjobs threw gin in my face and called me a nazi saying “don’t you know who owns this bar”. Bitch, I was just having a drink at the first bar in town.
Anyway, I learned to stay clear of the bar they were asking me to join instead, because who in their right mind joins a bunch of random wackos throwing gin in people’s faces.
Go up through this chain, and objectively ask yourself Am I the one who has been lashing out and name calling like a deranged lunatic? Or have I been calm and collected and presented my side in a rational manner?
It’s weird, I hopped off ML due to how much hate other users were giving me, but I never actually experienced anything from the ML users themselves. I did stay off the politics subs, so that’s maybe why, but it was genuinely quite a chill instance for me.
Anyway I’m on UK now, and people seem to treat me nicer
It’s similar in Lemmygrad.ml and Hexbear.net. Very chill usually, it’s the hatred they get from liberal-aligned instances that sparks all of the drama.
I agree. Whenever there’s a post about .ml users it comes from .world.
I understand if there’s political differences, but they incessantly try to vilify the whole instance.
You let them bully you into changing instances lol
I did. Have you not met some of these people? I’ve got kids, man
Weak
Early on I poked around ml, and it wasn’t so much hate but more like some really… interesting views on how to organize politically
It boiled down to “unite the workers of the world and seize the means of production”, but like… That was it. No answer to how to do that, or what to do next
The most annoying part was honestly just how hard some of them simp for China and Russia, sometimes even North Korea
Marxists absolutely have advice on how to organize, the problem is that it’s very regional. Some parties are good, others are horrid, but the basics are to find a good organization local to you and join it. Protesting, reading theory, doing direct action and mutual aid, unionizing and striking, all are good ways to organize.
None of us “simp” for the PRC or DPRK, and certainly not for the Russian Federation. We support socialist countries and critically support those working against the US empire.
Marxists do. Ml? It’s like… Unite the workers of the world by teaching then dielectrical materialism!
No… No. That’s not how reality works. You do have to restrict your ideology to reality, I don’t mind if your ideas spill over the sides, but they do have to exist in material reality
I’m not sure I follow your point. The Leninist aspects of Marxism-Leninism are mostly Lenin’s analysis of imperialism, the heights of which capitalism had not quite reached in Marx’s time, and in practical organizational theory. Marxism-Leninism posits that we should create a working class party, study the given conditions of the country we are in (history, contradictions, class struggle) in order to correctly identify the key issues to organize around. In doing so, the working class needs to gradually choose the vanguard party, meaning a vanguard party that fails to do so is no vanguard. Only then, when the conditions of revolution appear, can the vanguard direct the great quantity of the working class to achieve a qualitative change in society, into socialism.
Marxism-Leninism is based on practical struggle, based on reality, on the material world. The point of philosophy is to change the world for the better, not simply understand it. Education is merely one aspect of Marxist-Leninist praxis, used to create more effective revolutionaries, but is by no means the only.
Yeah, I have to admit the anti-US sentiment did align nicely with my eurocentric views. But the pro-Russia and pro-China sentiment did not jell with me very well, and was a factor of why I left
There’s very little disagreement among .ml users because .ml is so heavily moderated. As an insider, it looks like calm waters all around you. But other instances easily see the dissent getting quashed, and only deal with the .ml users spouting insane comments on non-ml communities.
That’s fair. Again, I never saw any of that. It was just the calm waters
So funny story guys, I was hanging out at a Nazi bar but they weren’t all that bad. In fact, they even bought me some drinks. The real problem was all the people outside the bar that would harass me with comments like, “why are you hanging with Nazis.”
Equating communists with Nazis is a form of Holocaust trivialization called “Double Genocide Theory.”
So funny story guys, I was minding my own business at literally the main bar downtown, when a bunch of hard-right nutjobs threw gin in my face and called me a nazi saying “don’t you know who owns this bar”. Bitch, I was just having a drink at the first bar in town.
Anyway, I learned to stay clear of the bar they were asking me to join instead, because who in their right mind joins a bunch of random wackos throwing gin in people’s faces.
I guess the Swastika and picture of Hitler was just their way of “decorating”.
Again, communists and Nazis are diametrically opposed.
It’s funny, I only ever saw you guys putting those up
Oh I have been abused by .ml community many times with their BS and Alts.
You know who hasn’t lied and treated me like shit? People posting anti .ml memes.
Get bent with you apologizing nonsense. I also like how you frame yourself as the victim which is typical right wing nonsense.
Go up through this chain, and objectively ask yourself Am I the one who has been lashing out and name calling like a deranged lunatic? Or have I been calm and collected and presented my side in a rational manner?
I just posted an allegory, you are the one who took it personal. I don’t know you from the man in the moon and I have no hard feelings.
You haven’t been abused by .ML, good for you. There are lots who have. You do realize how tone-deaf you are I hope.
Have a good day.