Move is part of a long-awaited Labour strategy including outlawing hen cages and ending puppy farming

Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.

Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.

The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.

  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    43·
    9 hours ago

    Which one is natural? A lobster fighting another lobster in its natural environment, or a human stuffing them into a pot of boiling water?

    Both. Humans are animals, everything we do is natural.

    • baconsunday@lemmy.zipEnglish
      32·
      5 hours ago

      That is completely incorrect. Operating a car is not natural, it is learned and a privilege. Flying a plane is not natural, it is earned, and heavily regulated which is why not everyone can be a pilot.

      Even replying on here though a magic rock that somehow converse to any area of the earth, not natural.

      You need to open a dictionary and start learning words. I hate to shit on you in a reddit behavior way, but you sound dillusional.

      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        11·
        55 minutes ago

        We’re an animal using the skills our species is born with. If making a fire and boiling water is unnatural, so is foxes digging holes, leaf cutter ants farming mold, and woodpeckers drilling into trees.

        You as a human are just as much of an animal as any of them and everything you evolved to do is natural. But at least you’re a self righteous asshole, so you’ve got that going for you I guess.

        • baconsunday@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          18 minutes ago

          It was never stated or implied that boiling water is unnatural. You’re putting a notion in that was never there. Feel free to quote me where I said boiling water is unnatural.

          A self righteous asshole with better reading comprehension than you have apparently.

          So anyways, boiling a living creature —> alive <---- is not a ‘natural’ thing in human nature.

      • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
        21·
        3 hours ago

        That is completely incorrect. Operating a car is not natural, it is learned and a privilege. Flying a plane is not natural, it is earned, and heavily regulated which is why not everyone can be a pilot.

        Never heard the “Nothing unnatural exists” perspective asserted?

        If doing naive realism (as certainly seems could be the case), that’d be wild to jump from one to the other. :)

        Even replying on here though a magic rock that somehow converse to any area of the earth, not natural.

        As worth quibbling our way out of tautologies and naive realist definitions of “magic” as for “natural”.

        Half tempted to dispell the magic, and elaborate on the physics, chemistry, basics of hardware design, machine code, assembly, the various programming languages and their compilers, network infrastructure, packets, monitors, keyboards, ascii/utf8, font design (and accessibility interfaces), web protocols, federation, etc etc etc etc etc

        You need to open a dictionary and start learning words. I hate to shit on you in a reddit behavior way, but you sound dillusional.

        Mhmm. Presumptive, arrogant, condescending, ad-hominem flinging… I wonder if there’s some narcissism here, besides the smugnorance born of naive realism and wilful ignorance and lack of curiosity or humility. Could learn so much more, if took that plank out of your eye, rather than chastising others for what you presume in theirs.