I know things were pretty fucked - I haven’t been a lifelong cynic for no reason - but still, it’s amazing how quickly snd completely the US has descended into screeching insanity.
And all at the hands of this demented lunatic, his psychopathic enablers and his legions of angry and stupid followers.
Reality has gone completely off the rails. Virtually every day, I read another account of blithering insanity, and painfully obviously dangerous and destructive insanity, from this administration, and then I watch as all of the official entities that are meant to check that sort of insanity just treat it as another day and another press release from another President’s office.
It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes, only far far worse.
People still doubling down on their actions in 24, not acknowledging that those very actions led to the orange idiot being elected. Again.
As long as there is no acknowledgement, we can expect a repeat of the very same in 28, possibly with the literal devil on the other side, while the voters smugly criticize the minutae of the more sensible candidate and sit it out.
Sometimes you put yourself aside in the interest of the country.
Oh look - it’s the DNC Defense Force, here to get an early start on guilt-tripping leftists who won’t vote for whichever shitty center right neolib hack the DNC will likely end up trying to foist on the voters at the behest of their corporate donors.
Fuck that. It’s not the voters’ responsibility to vote for a piece of shit just because they stink a little bit less than the other piece of shit - it’s the DNC’s responsibility to run candidates people actually want to vote for. And when they can’t (or more accurately won’t) even do that, then they and nobody else are responsible for the consequences.
And this is how we got to Trump, the other side acts like psychos but at least they have kind of a coherent football team mentality going on, even if they’re fucking ignorant racist sons of bitches. They don’t focus on the minutia of how they disagree with each other at every turn and spew vitriol and divide themselves like this. Nobody fucking hates the other factions on the left like a lefty. We are all so fractured and individual it’s a fucking joke. Like herding fucking cats, buddy. We should be able to use the anger from this moment to unite, but none of us can even decide what the fuck we should be uniting around. Meanwhile violent sociopathic pedophiles can corral enough morons to crash their way into the capitol whenever they want. We all have lofty ideals about the best possible form of government and the people to staff that government, but in order to have an operational government you have to have a team of people who are united. We can’t even agree on the morality of violence, much less point of finger in the direction we should go from here. Fucking frustrating homies.
The fact that this whole norion of a lack of lefty unity is complete bullshit was neatly demonstrated by leftist voters coming together to overwhelmingly support Zohran Mamdani.
And who didn’t support him? The fucking establishment neolib hacks - the exact same people who keep fucking us over by putting up shitty candidates then trying to guilt trip leftists into voting for them. We finally got a candidate we wanted and they couldn’t even be arsed to endorse him.
Enjoy the next 3 then. It’s not even what I’m implying. In fact, I’m positive you will - the fact that the two comments above sound the same tell me all I need to know.
Would she have been better than Trump? Undoubtedly!
Should people have voted for her? Yes, if you oppose Trump’s fascism. But no, if you don’t really care about your fellow citizens who may be at risk for deportation/prosecution/dehumanization.
Harris and the DNC would’ve been a bit more amenable to the popular opinion than trump and the GQP have ever been. So after her election, people could have protested in Washington dc against Israel’s genocide and have found a listening ear in Congress.
You shouldn’t base your presidential vote purely on one single issue. Especially not if it’s a foreign affairs issue, which is what the Israeli genocide in Palestine is. You need to look at the much broader picture. Look at the other policies and ideas that both candidates have.
We knew about trumps desire to hurt his political enemies, we knew about his hatred for trans people, we knew about his desire to deport immigrant, before he got elected. So you could have based your vote on that.
And what you just described is the exact process by which governments descend into tyranny.
The much better way to deal with the issue, if you actually do care about your fellow humans, is to refuse to support a toxic candidate even if they are somewhat less toxic than the alternative, and make sure at every single turn that the blame is placed squarely where it should be - on the foul, loathsome, corrupt and compromised scumbags who arranged for the nomination of a toxic piece of shit candidate in the first place.
Less bad is still bad. If you settle for less bad, the best you’ll ever get is that things woll potentially get worse somewhat more slowly than they would otherwise. They’ll still inevitably get worse.
If you want things to actually get better, then you have to hold the scumbags’ feet to the fire. You have to make sure that it’s widely understood that they and they alone are the reason that the best we can hope for is somewhat less bad and things getting worse somewhat more slowly. And you can’t do that by meekly going along with them.
oh look, another votescold so thoroughly convinced that everything would have been fine if only everyone followed their campaign strategy, that they’re literally blaming anti-fascists for fascism. How about blaming actual fascists instead?
Ok, I’ll take the non raping, non narcissist, non child abusing, non twice impeached, non trying to save his fat lardy ass, non looking to use the office to take revenge on anyone and anything he disagrees with one, thanks.
Nigeria’s government has said armed groups target both Muslims and Christians, and U.S. claims that Christians face persecution do not represent the complex security situation and ignore efforts to safeguard religious freedom. But it has agreed to work with the U.S. to bolster its forces against militant groups.
Unfortunately, the mass media is complicit in the insanity - they’ve abandoned principles, integrity, honesty and accuracy in pursuit of profit and/or the owners’ agenda, whichever might be deemed more important in a given organization.
That’s not to say that that story is necessarily false. It’s simply that if it’s a spin that serves someone’s agenda, as this obviously is, then it will be published somewhere, entirely regardless of whether it’s true or not, so the fact that it has been published means nothing at all.
I’m old. My first awareness of the world of politics was the Watergate hearings, so I actually lived through most of the run-up to this.
It’s certainly the case that the US has been moving more or less steadily toward plutocratic oligarchy since at least Nixon, and progress has definitely accelerated (though it really started accelerating with the Wall Street bailouts in the wake of the 2008 real estate bubble collapse and hasn’t really let up since), but that’s not really what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about the literal insanity of Trump and his sycophants. They aren’t merely corrupt tools of the plutocrats like so many past politicians - they’re deranged lunatics. That’s not hyperbole - it’s simple fact, plainly obvious to anyone who takes a step back and honestly looks at what they do and say.
It’s not that the US has accelerated toward autocracy in less than a year (though it has), because yes - that’s the direction it’s been headed for decades. The astonishing thing to me is that the US has effectively gone insane in less than a year.
If the US was a person, it’d be on a psych hold. And that’s something I wasn’t prepared for, even as cynical as I’ve always been.
I’m sorry, you think this sort of behavioral escalation is distinctively Trumpian? Go look up the military actions of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. This is the the US - nonstop mass murder, constantly, unending, brutal, insane. Trump is just rubber stamping what the military puts in front him. He isn’t planning these things out.
Obama literally got the Nobel peace price while bombing civilians with drones in the middle east, do you really think that what’s happening in Nigeria is significantly worse?
There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.
Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.
trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.
For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.
I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good
The US is not and has never been good. The Ds are not and have never been good. They preside over genocides, support Nazis and NeoNazis, starve millions of innocents for political gain, kill children, destroy the environment for generations with chemicals and radioactive waste, mass incarcerate people for profit and political control, purge leftists from the country when necessary, spread lies about the world to create hatred and fear, and never stop spending money on the larger war machine in history as it grinds people into blood and dust.
The Rs do it too. There is no good to be found in the US political system. None. Zero. Zilch. The perfect is the not the enemy of the good here. There is no good to be an enemy of. The leftists in America fighting both parties are the good. Perfect is the enemy of the revolutionary left.
My point is the opposite of normalizing Trump. What needs normalizing is the (correct) view that the USA has always been a genocidal war-crime state, and that a mere change of leadership back to Kamala “most lethal army in the world” Harris-type democrats will not suffice. I equate them because, in international policy, they’re indistinguishable, geopolitics are bipartisan in the USA and they’ve always been. Trump surely is worse for USA inhabitants than democrats, no doubt, but I’m a Spaniard, not an US citizen.
They’re not wrong tho, how do we stop the libs from going back to brunch while Gavin Newsom continues 98% of Trump’s policies, and then hand power back to the republicans in 2030?
Odd that you think believing that the US is a violent, terrible, evil, exploitative globe-spanning empire exporting death, destruction and poverty is equivalent to liking Trump.
You can’t convince me the person that wrote this comment is not a Russian fucking troll. You’re going to lecture me and use the r word in the same comment? You really got your head up your ass buddy. I’m not deflecting shit, just not throwing every leader we’ve ever had into a trash bin out of hand. Equating Democratic leadership and conservative leadership right now is exactly the playbook of trump supporters that’s what I’m trying to say.
ZERO US citizens would equate Obama and OrangeShitsHisPants, because only a Russian bot (or someone cosplaying a Russia bot) would see them as the same
I hear you, and I empathize, genuinely. But this attitude isn’t exactly fuckin productive now is it? Expressing things this way is exactly what those fuckers want to think about lefties. Why would anyone try and parley or have a constructive discussion with a person who says shit like this?
I know things were pretty fucked - I haven’t been a lifelong cynic for no reason - but still, it’s amazing how quickly snd completely the US has descended into screeching insanity.
And all at the hands of this demented lunatic, his psychopathic enablers and his legions of angry and stupid followers.
What a world…
And all of it because billionaires want to fuck children and not pay taxes.
— billionaires
Not even the end of Y1
That’s the most astonishing part of it to me.
Reality has gone completely off the rails. Virtually every day, I read another account of blithering insanity, and painfully obviously dangerous and destructive insanity, from this administration, and then I watch as all of the official entities that are meant to check that sort of insanity just treat it as another day and another press release from another President’s office.
It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes, only far far worse.
And all in less than a year…
The media is highly complicit in how they sanewash the most insane shit we’ve ever seen
People still doubling down on their actions in 24, not acknowledging that those very actions led to the orange idiot being elected. Again.
As long as there is no acknowledgement, we can expect a repeat of the very same in 28, possibly with the literal devil on the other side, while the voters smugly criticize the minutae of the more sensible candidate and sit it out.
Sometimes you put yourself aside in the interest of the country.
Oh look - it’s the DNC Defense Force, here to get an early start on guilt-tripping leftists who won’t vote for whichever shitty center right neolib hack the DNC will likely end up trying to foist on the voters at the behest of their corporate donors.
Fuck that. It’s not the voters’ responsibility to vote for a piece of shit just because they stink a little bit less than the other piece of shit - it’s the DNC’s responsibility to run candidates people actually want to vote for. And when they can’t (or more accurately won’t) even do that, then they and nobody else are responsible for the consequences.
And this is how we got to Trump, the other side acts like psychos but at least they have kind of a coherent football team mentality going on, even if they’re fucking ignorant racist sons of bitches. They don’t focus on the minutia of how they disagree with each other at every turn and spew vitriol and divide themselves like this. Nobody fucking hates the other factions on the left like a lefty. We are all so fractured and individual it’s a fucking joke. Like herding fucking cats, buddy. We should be able to use the anger from this moment to unite, but none of us can even decide what the fuck we should be uniting around. Meanwhile violent sociopathic pedophiles can corral enough morons to crash their way into the capitol whenever they want. We all have lofty ideals about the best possible form of government and the people to staff that government, but in order to have an operational government you have to have a team of people who are united. We can’t even agree on the morality of violence, much less point of finger in the direction we should go from here. Fucking frustrating homies.
Oh and…
The fact that this whole norion of a lack of lefty unity is complete bullshit was neatly demonstrated by leftist voters coming together to overwhelmingly support Zohran Mamdani.
And who didn’t support him? The fucking establishment neolib hacks - the exact same people who keep fucking us over by putting up shitty candidates then trying to guilt trip leftists into voting for them. We finally got a candidate we wanted and they couldn’t even be arsed to endorse him.
Enjoy the next 3 then. It’s not even what I’m implying. In fact, I’m positive you will - the fact that the two comments above sound the same tell me all I need to know.
At least flip your scripts once in a while.
Supporting genocide is not fucking “minutia.”
Should the DNC have run a better candidate? Yes!
Was Harris a dream president? No!
Would she have been better than Trump? Undoubtedly!
Should people have voted for her? Yes, if you oppose Trump’s fascism. But no, if you don’t really care about your fellow citizens who may be at risk for deportation/prosecution/dehumanization.
Harris and the DNC would’ve been a bit more amenable to the popular opinion than trump and the GQP have ever been. So after her election, people could have protested in Washington dc against Israel’s genocide and have found a listening ear in Congress.
You shouldn’t base your presidential vote purely on one single issue. Especially not if it’s a foreign affairs issue, which is what the Israeli genocide in Palestine is. You need to look at the much broader picture. Look at the other policies and ideas that both candidates have.
We knew about trumps desire to hurt his political enemies, we knew about his hatred for trans people, we knew about his desire to deport immigrant, before he got elected. So you could have based your vote on that.
And what you just described is the exact process by which governments descend into tyranny.
The much better way to deal with the issue, if you actually do care about your fellow humans, is to refuse to support a toxic candidate even if they are somewhat less toxic than the alternative, and make sure at every single turn that the blame is placed squarely where it should be - on the foul, loathsome, corrupt and compromised scumbags who arranged for the nomination of a toxic piece of shit candidate in the first place.
Less bad is still bad. If you settle for less bad, the best you’ll ever get is that things woll potentially get worse somewhat more slowly than they would otherwise. They’ll still inevitably get worse.
If you want things to actually get better, then you have to hold the scumbags’ feet to the fire. You have to make sure that it’s widely understood that they and they alone are the reason that the best we can hope for is somewhat less bad and things getting worse somewhat more slowly. And you can’t do that by meekly going along with them.
oh look, another votescold so thoroughly convinced that everything would have been fine if only everyone followed their campaign strategy, that they’re literally blaming anti-fascists for fascism. How about blaming actual fascists instead?
Ok, I’ll take the non raping, non narcissist, non child abusing, non twice impeached, non trying to save his fat lardy ass, non looking to use the office to take revenge on anyone and anything he disagrees with one, thanks.
touch grass
It’s unclear if Nigeria asked the US for help but they seem to be accepting it.
https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/us-launches-strikes-against-islamic-state-militants-northwest-nigeria-trump-says-2025-12-25/
At this point though, that’s just noise.
Unfortunately, the mass media is complicit in the insanity - they’ve abandoned principles, integrity, honesty and accuracy in pursuit of profit and/or the owners’ agenda, whichever might be deemed more important in a given organization.
That’s not to say that that story is necessarily false. It’s simply that if it’s a spin that serves someone’s agenda, as this obviously is, then it will be published somewhere, entirely regardless of whether it’s true or not, so the fact that it has been published means nothing at all.
Mainstream media is just billionaire media.
And the government is just billionaire government.
The only war is class war.
Sorry for being picky, just wanted to point out this bit of redundancy:
That agenda ultimately is and always will be profit for any company even a hundredth of that size, let alone a straight up monopoly.
Other than that, no notes 10/10
It’s accelerated a lot recently, but this has been in the works for a long time, and many people were ringing alarm bells.
I’m old. My first awareness of the world of politics was the Watergate hearings, so I actually lived through most of the run-up to this.
It’s certainly the case that the US has been moving more or less steadily toward plutocratic oligarchy since at least Nixon, and progress has definitely accelerated (though it really started accelerating with the Wall Street bailouts in the wake of the 2008 real estate bubble collapse and hasn’t really let up since), but that’s not really what I’m talking about.
I’m talking about the literal insanity of Trump and his sycophants. They aren’t merely corrupt tools of the plutocrats like so many past politicians - they’re deranged lunatics. That’s not hyperbole - it’s simple fact, plainly obvious to anyone who takes a step back and honestly looks at what they do and say.
It’s not that the US has accelerated toward autocracy in less than a year (though it has), because yes - that’s the direction it’s been headed for decades. The astonishing thing to me is that the US has effectively gone insane in less than a year.
If the US was a person, it’d be on a psych hold. And that’s something I wasn’t prepared for, even as cynical as I’ve always been.
The scariest part is how surprised and unprepared the rest of the world was. “Sanity will prevail!” Really? Why?
Quickly it was not. This has been in the works since Nixon. Now it just when it’s coming to a head. And it’ll only get worse from here.
No, that’s what
was seemingly referring to
I’m sorry, you think this sort of behavioral escalation is distinctively Trumpian? Go look up the military actions of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. This is the the US - nonstop mass murder, constantly, unending, brutal, insane. Trump is just rubber stamping what the military puts in front him. He isn’t planning these things out.
bOtH SiDeS eXaCtLy ThE sAmE. Bullshit like this is all I hear from people who want to suck Trump’s dick these days
Obama literally got the Nobel peace price while bombing civilians with drones in the middle east, do you really think that what’s happening in Nigeria is significantly worse?
There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.
Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.
trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.
For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.
I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good
The US is not and has never been good. The Ds are not and have never been good. They preside over genocides, support Nazis and NeoNazis, starve millions of innocents for political gain, kill children, destroy the environment for generations with chemicals and radioactive waste, mass incarcerate people for profit and political control, purge leftists from the country when necessary, spread lies about the world to create hatred and fear, and never stop spending money on the larger war machine in history as it grinds people into blood and dust.
The Rs do it too. There is no good to be found in the US political system. None. Zero. Zilch. The perfect is the not the enemy of the good here. There is no good to be an enemy of. The leftists in America fighting both parties are the good. Perfect is the enemy of the revolutionary left.
My point is the opposite of normalizing Trump. What needs normalizing is the (correct) view that the USA has always been a genocidal war-crime state, and that a mere change of leadership back to Kamala “most lethal army in the world” Harris-type democrats will not suffice. I equate them because, in international policy, they’re indistinguishable, geopolitics are bipartisan in the USA and they’ve always been. Trump surely is worse for USA inhabitants than democrats, no doubt, but I’m a Spaniard, not an US citizen.
You’re failing in your goal
They’re not wrong tho, how do we stop the libs from going back to brunch while Gavin Newsom continues 98% of Trump’s policies, and then hand power back to the republicans in 2030?
That’s your opinion, good to know
The resounding opinion. You are so bad at debate club lol jesus christ
The nobel peace prize really has never been an indicator of someone not causing wide spread death and destruction both indirectly or directly.
The name is kinda misleading. The whole peace aspect is an ideal not a reality sadly.
Not defending it in any way, but he got the award before the drone campaigns I believe. I think he got it like as soon as he took office?
Also, it’s not just Nigeria. If this were a vacuum, sure. But these kinds of arguments just come off as disingenuous these days.
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Odd that you think believing that the US is a violent, terrible, evil, exploitative globe-spanning empire exporting death, destruction and poverty is equivalent to liking Trump.
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You can’t convince me the person that wrote this comment is not a Russian fucking troll. You’re going to lecture me and use the r word in the same comment? You really got your head up your ass buddy. I’m not deflecting shit, just not throwing every leader we’ve ever had into a trash bin out of hand. Equating Democratic leadership and conservative leadership right now is exactly the playbook of trump supporters that’s what I’m trying to say.
100% bot assault, it’s so painfully clear
ZERO US citizens would equate Obama and OrangeShitsHisPants, because only a Russian bot (or someone cosplaying a Russia bot) would see them as the same
Nobody sees them as the same, sure. Some people see Obama as worse. 30% of the country think Trump is doing great.
Real free thinker vibes
I will, fuck US imperialism and fuck the soapbox they gave you to stand on and the propaganda they emboldened you with.
I don’t owe the murder capital of the world anything for being born there.
Now who’s fake news?
Emotional overreactions aren’t discussions, and devolving into name calling is the same thing a fascist would do on Facebook,
Good job!
I hear you, and I empathize, genuinely. But this attitude isn’t exactly fuckin productive now is it? Expressing things this way is exactly what those fuckers want to think about lefties. Why would anyone try and parley or have a constructive discussion with a person who says shit like this?
Da comrade, extra bread for you dis veek
None of them made their policy decisions based on short entertainment segments on Fox.