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    The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty. That poverty is on purpose to funnel recruits into the military. Unlikely to ever be a draft again, they’ll just ramp up the poverty.

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      The motivation for most new recruits in the US military is escaping poverty.

      Also the leading motivation for ICE recruits. That and the ability to be jerks.

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    I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.

    If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).

    This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.

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      As a european, chances are if my country is being invaded, it’s either by Russia og USA. If I’m gonna have to defend my country it will absolutely not be through the military. Conventional warfare against a greater foe is just a really good way of getting killed.

      Either civil disobediance or terrorist attacks like the IRA is more my style.

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        Terorist attacks implies that your town is already occupied, and by then it’s too late. It’s very easy for an occupying army to shoot civilians, and they do it regularly. IRA style worked because British army did not depopulate towns.

        You won’t do much without weapons, and the military is one of few ways to get them.

        Also not handguns or rifles. If you ever need to use a rifle, the enemy is already right at your face (or you’re shooting civilians). And you’re not buying yourself a grenade launcher or an artillery piece with your civilian salary and civilian hunting license.

        The best way to contribute as a civilian is to assemble some drones, ideally with 10 kg payload, enough to rig it with an anti-tank mine. In case of invasion, the army can provide mines really quickly.

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      This is why I don’t think the strength of the US military holds up to its historical reputation today.

      No one wants to fight stupid wars for someone else, but they are willing to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life. And we have the internet that allows us to know that yes, other people also live a similar life to me and have similar thoughts. Sure, they have all the prepper and tacticool guys dying at the chance to get on a chopper. But real life warfare, especially guerrilla, is not like in the (American) movies

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    I never thought I’d see a POTUS consider denaturalising US citizens as well so you’d hope they won’t draft you but I wouldn’t discount it. Cannon fodder is always necessary especially if you’re not white or MAGA.

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    The issue is that many of us are also concerned about the others who would or at least could be drafted. Our children. The younger adults we’ve taken under our wings and built friendships with. It’s hardly any comfort knowing that I would never be drafted. Granted, I don’t think there’s a good chance of anybody getting drafted in my lifetime, but stupider shit has already happened, so there you go.

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    At least my death after I’m drafted in the wars over oil will raise the share price of the Military-Industrial Complex shareholders, bless them 🙏🙏🙏

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    We have assessed your current situation and are pleased to inform you we have created a project for people with skills like yourself.

    Welcome to operation meat shield where we’ll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.

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    Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.

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      Nahh, they’d have to be drafting 60 y/os by the time they got to me. Honestly ill just be impressed i held out that long.

      Unless you foresee them instituting the draft tomorrow.

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      Russia’s strategy has been to throw meat at the front until Ukraine runs out of bullets resulting in over a MILLION killed or wounded. The US had around 60,000 total casualties across the entire GWOT, with the vast majority just being wounded.

      The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future. That doesn’t rule out the possibility trump does it for the hell of it, but at the same time I’m pretty sure the Republicans would impeach him themselves if he did that.

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        The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future.

        US military has a record number of recruits because it’s the only way to get an education and healthcare.

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      eh, in the Netherlands you can get drafted until 45. at least there’s no mandatory duty nowadays… yet.

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    Americans are not unhealthy due to lack of affordable healthcare. They are unhealthy due to the availability of cheap, heavily processed, high calorie foods.

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      It’s multiple factors. There is the cheap, ultra processed foods, but also when a doctor tells you to lose weight, they’re likely to tell you to go on a diet and exercise, but without giving advice on what types of diet and exercise are most helpful. Even if they do refer you to a nutritionist, insurance likely won’t cover it. Add misinformation and a culture of blaming people for their bad health to that mix and you end up with a recipe for disaster.

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            Its not that simple. Its a good starting point for weight loss, but there’s many contributing factors that can affect how one’s body retains calories. Some people are lucky and have all of those contributing factors even out to where all that’s left is a simple calories in/calories out equation, some are even luckier and just burn excess calories with no effort and never meaningfully gain weight, but some will fight hard reducing calories and increasing activity while seeing minimal improvement and end up extremely frustrated and burnt out because it isn’t that simple.

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        Time to order the diet BigMac, Diet Coke, and Diet Fried chicken! Who knew a diet could be so delicious!

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        I mean, not really, in the grand scheme of things it’s mainly being fat and unhealthy, as well as cancer. By a long shot.

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              Turns out, it’s pretty unhealthy to be fat. That message was lost in it’s entirely in the body positive movement. As well as any accountability.

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              Even ones not directly related to health, such as accidental injuries.

              For example, seat belts are less effective on people who are obese.

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        I’m one of the only thin people I ever see in the doctor’s office. That’s not snark, that’s my observation.

        The remaining thin people are elderly. I’ll let everyone ponder that last for a few.

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          What I’m getting from your comment is there are multiple thin people, including you who is not elderly, at the doctor’s office. Thus proving my point…

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            How about this: Almost every human in the waiting room is fat excepting me and the truly elderly. There are rare exceptions, but fatties are the rule. Blunt enough?

            Wasn’t trying to be too blunt, but this as well: I have rarely seen a fit adult in a foot cast. The only exception to fat people in casts are kids who are obviously athletes. Gravity is real.

            Old preacher man in South Chicago was bullshitting with me while I installed his satellite dish:

            “Shalafi, let me ask you somethin’. You know the saying, ‘little old man’ or ‘little old lady’? Why you think that is? Put another way, you ever know a man or woman in their 80s that was exceptionally tall or fat? Why you think that is?”

            This wasn’t a lead-up to “god made us this way” or some moralistic horseshit, but it was a great conversation and much food for thought. He made me coffee and served me cookies. Wish I could visit him again.

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      And a culture of gluttony around team sports. The ads are always in this order: pizza, fried chicken, burgers, pepcid AC, pepto bismol. The only diet in the world you have to drug yourself to eat.

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      How come there is a drug on the market that seemingly cures obesity but Healthcare plans do not cover it?

      Coincidence?