I get the ethics of that concept. however… it is a tool we can use?
Horror level sci fi thought experiment that has no material relevance, only an abstract though experiment.
let’s say I use artificial selection to breed intelligent animals that will consent (yhea, far fetched, but it’s a thought experiment so let’s accept that premise). you might point that consent ends when the breeding program began, but all I had to do is take away candidates that aren’t good from the breeding pool and let them breed freely. That as consentual as wildlife breeding gets.
The creature offers Zaphod and his party his shoulder, braised in a white wine sauce, then goes on to offer other parts of its body, having worked hard to fatten itself up through force-feeding itself for months. Eventually, after Arthur and Trillian have expressed their shock and Ford has expressed his disinterest, Zaphod requests four rare steaks and the Dish of the Day goes off to shoot himself, telling Arthur not to worry, as he says “I’ll be very humane.”
it will likely only hurt those who consent to participate, so still. not sure if that should be illegal, usual doing stupid dangerous (to the self) isn’t illegal.
there’s no law that says I can’t shove fireworks up my arse. it’s a bad idea and I shouldn’t do it, but that isn’t illegal
it makes sense to ban it for sale, but if you go and eat random stuff you find you will hurt yourself, but it isn’t illegal… unless what you eat makes you feel good, then it’s super illegal
I think the consensus is that excreted material is not cannibalism. like drinking milk or eggs is not eating meat (although I would argue that technically, a fertilized egg even though identical should in theory count as meat).
So it would be vegan because you consented to BDSM and cumming, and it is also vegan because it does not count as meat because it is excreted.
I get the ethics of that concept. however… it is a tool we can use?
Horror level sci fi thought experiment that has no material relevance, only an abstract though experiment.
let’s say I use artificial selection to breed intelligent animals that will consent (yhea, far fetched, but it’s a thought experiment so let’s accept that premise). you might point that consent ends when the breeding program began, but all I had to do is take away candidates that aren’t good from the breeding pool and let them breed freely. That as consentual as wildlife breeding gets.
would eating the meat of those animals be vegan?
fuck there’s a Rick and Morty episode about that.
Or comedy-level sci-fi.
https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Ameglian_Major_Cow
If I surgically remove a SatansMaggotyCumFart steak it’s vegan and vegans can cook and eat it.
yet consentual cannibalism is illegal
And it should remain so as long as we don’t have a proper way to deal with prions.
it will likely only hurt those who consent to participate, so still. not sure if that should be illegal, usual doing stupid dangerous (to the self) isn’t illegal.
there’s no law that says I can’t shove fireworks up my arse. it’s a bad idea and I shouldn’t do it, but that isn’t illegal
Food standards exist for a reason. You can’t trust people not to put shit in their mouth that’ll harm them.
it makes sense to ban it for sale, but if you go and eat random stuff you find you will hurt yourself, but it isn’t illegal… unless what you eat makes you feel good, then it’s super illegal
Being legal or illegal doesn’t mean it’s vegan or not though.
fair enough, but according to the concent idea of veganism, you’re technically right, giving people your own meat is vegan.
Where it gets messy is when you’re having a consensual BDSM encounter and you have an orgasm from the pain is that semen vegan or not?
I think the consensus is that excreted material is not cannibalism. like drinking milk or eggs is not eating meat (although I would argue that technically, a fertilized egg even though identical should in theory count as meat).
So it would be vegan because you consented to BDSM and cumming, and it is also vegan because it does not count as meat because it is excreted.
Moreso, is it vegan for a person who did not participate in the encounter to consume the semen, versus the person who had consent to extract it.
A better middle ground: graft genetically modified pork onto a human for like a day.
OR… Find people losing weight from ozempic and have them get surgery to remove excess skin. Sell it as “lab-grown meat.”