Sounding kinda fascy here for being the defender of democracy lmaooooo classic liberals. My way or the high way no room for discussion that makes you feel rightfully stupid and misinformed.
We’re not in a democracy, we’re in a capitalist duopoly, get with it and stop acting like a fucking child because the world doesn’t give you ideal options. Your choices are shit sandwich and bigger shit sandwich, if you refuse to choose then you will be force fed the bigger shit sandwich. There is no getting what you want out of the situation, there is literally no such thing as a club sandwich, it doesn’t exist, but you can make an attempt at not being force fed the larger pile of shit and bread.
Man you really are close. Unless you like the capitalist duopoly (which really they are two parties of capital so its hardly even a duopoly) then surely you must also understand from your vast studies that engaging with the lesser of two evils narrative is precisely how capital has been able to accrue more and more power over the systems that be. Every election cycle the Dems just move further right towards the Republicans and then y’all vote for them and wonder why shit sucks!
I dont subscribe to your defeatist attitude that allows you to justify inaction and shitty politics of individuality. Grow up and read some books.
That’s all entirely erroneous. Ignoring the reality of things for an idealist fantasy doesn’t make you morally superior, it makes you a tool.
What you call defeatism I call pragmatism and situational understanding. You’re demanding that perfection get in the way of progress or damage control, you’re not progressive, you’re exactly what the powers that be want you to be, absolutely fucking useless and ineffectual. You’re a dog of the state, they said roll over and you did exactly that.
I’m not advocating for the system to be what it is, I simply understand what it is, you obviously don’t and keep projecting what you’d like things to be. Stop being a useless idealist and examine the real world for what it is and how it’s actually functioning. This is not the time for dreams.
Most on the left are finished with trying to discuss, or find common ground, with the right There is no such thing. The right wing does not discuss in good faith, and they don’t believe in words. Hypocrisy doesn’t phase them and they have no shame. They will abandon a principle the moment it inconveniences them.
And frankly the world sees who you look up to, so if I were you I wouldn’t be slinging around accusations of stupidity.
Well it kinds does. Critique from the right will never lead to the reforms we need it will just be minorly improved shitty options because they will never substantially threaten the powers of capital that control our government.
I don’t think either side has accepted where they are and what needs to be done, regardless of how you got there.
It’s too late to talk about what the laws and regulations should be. Laws are irrelevant. The time to affect ideological change has passed, you missed the window. Even if you’re right about the causes, and I believe you and I would agree on that, those discussions are over. At this point it’s just more navel gazing and blaming that distracts from what needs to be done.
I disagree. Now more than ever ideological change in this country is a necessity. How do you suggest we get out of this without fundamentally changing the character of the politics in this country?
Sounding kinda fascy here for being the defender of democracy lmaooooo classic liberals. My way or the high way no room for discussion that makes you feel rightfully stupid and misinformed.
We’re not in a democracy, we’re in a capitalist duopoly, get with it and stop acting like a fucking child because the world doesn’t give you ideal options. Your choices are shit sandwich and bigger shit sandwich, if you refuse to choose then you will be force fed the bigger shit sandwich. There is no getting what you want out of the situation, there is literally no such thing as a club sandwich, it doesn’t exist, but you can make an attempt at not being force fed the larger pile of shit and bread.
Man you really are close. Unless you like the capitalist duopoly (which really they are two parties of capital so its hardly even a duopoly) then surely you must also understand from your vast studies that engaging with the lesser of two evils narrative is precisely how capital has been able to accrue more and more power over the systems that be. Every election cycle the Dems just move further right towards the Republicans and then y’all vote for them and wonder why shit sucks!
I dont subscribe to your defeatist attitude that allows you to justify inaction and shitty politics of individuality. Grow up and read some books.
That’s all entirely erroneous. Ignoring the reality of things for an idealist fantasy doesn’t make you morally superior, it makes you a tool.
What you call defeatism I call pragmatism and situational understanding. You’re demanding that perfection get in the way of progress or damage control, you’re not progressive, you’re exactly what the powers that be want you to be, absolutely fucking useless and ineffectual. You’re a dog of the state, they said roll over and you did exactly that.
What’s erroneous? Praytell explain to me how capitalism works or something. This should be good I’ll go get popcorn.
I’m not advocating for the system to be what it is, I simply understand what it is, you obviously don’t and keep projecting what you’d like things to be. Stop being a useless idealist and examine the real world for what it is and how it’s actually functioning. This is not the time for dreams.
Most on the left are finished with trying to discuss, or find common ground, with the right There is no such thing. The right wing does not discuss in good faith, and they don’t believe in words. Hypocrisy doesn’t phase them and they have no shame. They will abandon a principle the moment it inconveniences them.
And frankly the world sees who you look up to, so if I were you I wouldn’t be slinging around accusations of stupidity.
Lmao do you think I’m on the right?
I don’t think it matters, to be honest.
Well it kinds does. Critique from the right will never lead to the reforms we need it will just be minorly improved shitty options because they will never substantially threaten the powers of capital that control our government.
I don’t think either side has accepted where they are and what needs to be done, regardless of how you got there.
It’s too late to talk about what the laws and regulations should be. Laws are irrelevant. The time to affect ideological change has passed, you missed the window. Even if you’re right about the causes, and I believe you and I would agree on that, those discussions are over. At this point it’s just more navel gazing and blaming that distracts from what needs to be done.
I disagree. Now more than ever ideological change in this country is a necessity. How do you suggest we get out of this without fundamentally changing the character of the politics in this country?
Corpocrats are just as hopeless as MAGA.
I am baffled by this comment…corpocrat?
Where do you get this idea that I am pro corpo or pro Dem?
This is such a funny moment of a liberal being unable to comprehend the political spectrum.
I was agreeing with you.
Apologies for the friendly fire then comrade
All good homie. I know how it is out here.