• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    No one yet has complete and reliable data for the number of ICE and other deportations in 2025. But there has been an analysis of ICE flight data that showed a 62% increase in the number of deportations-related flights in 2025 compared to 2024, as of September:

    https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/ice-flight-monitor-september-2025-monthly-report/

    ICE flights month by month - chart

    Source: PDF report on ICE flights

    The ICE arrest data also shows a steep rise in 2025:

    ICE arrests 2025

    Source: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2025/12/11/ice-jails-update/

    Since you are confident of your analysis showing the opposite, please provide your sources and numbers instead of telling people to do their own research.

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      The best they’ve got are stats from before Trump was president, and they’re “too lazy” to keep looking.

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      I did provide the source, literally the one used by your sources. Which even show that there were way less in ‘24 compared to previous years, then shot up again. This is done by both R and D on many instances BTW to look better in comparison. So when you see a comparison between a president’s first year, to previous’ last, look at other years.

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        The source you linked to (https://www.ice.gov/statistics) only has data up to December 2024, when Biden was still President. The sources I linked to had data from 2025. The small numbers for 2025 in your link are for Fiscal Year 2025, ending in December 2024, so despite the name FY2025, that’s really just the last 3 months of 2024.

        So those statistics contain no information about what ICE has been doing since January 2025 when Trump returned.

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          When looking at one of the charts you provided, would it be fair to assume that it was like 300 deportations per day in 2024? That would be like twice as many ICE deportations as what I’m seeing in the ICE website.

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              In that 2nd chart, from prison policy. It’s only showing 3 months of 2024 though, and they average about 300 ICE deportations per day. When I compare that number to the ice website, numbers are way off, unless they were on crack those 3 months. So what’s off here?

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                  So then why was I given that chart? And then the first chart barely has an increase in deportations compared to 22 & 23, just a massive spike in domestic flights.

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                    Why did you provide data that only goes up to December 2024 as a source to prove that deportations were higher under Biden than Trump?