• DaMummy@lemmy.world
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    In that 2nd chart, from prison policy. It’s only showing 3 months of 2024 though, and they average about 300 ICE deportations per day. When I compare that number to the ice website, numbers are way off, unless they were on crack those 3 months. So what’s off here?

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        So then why was I given that chart? And then the first chart barely has an increase in deportations compared to 22 & 23, just a massive spike in domestic flights.

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          Why did you provide data that only goes up to December 2024 as a source to prove that deportations were higher under Biden than Trump?

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            As said, I was hoping for something that covers even the Obama years, at least Trumps first term, but I guess the ICE website doesn’t provide that data anymore. Could’ve sworn some official website did, maybe it was DHS.

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              But that’s not what you said, is it? You asserted that the data you shared covered the first year of Trumps second term.

              Why did you provide it as a source for your claim when it doesn’t actually include what you said it includes?

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                You’re right, I did. I saw fiscal year 2025, and I assumed it actually showed fy25. Fiscal year apparently means something different in Ohio as well :/ But in fairness, if we’re gonna go after my goalposting, can we at least answer my first questions as well. How many ICE deportations were there under Biden, and how many deaths in ICE custody were there under Biden.

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                  You provided the answer to that question, so we should be all set. Next in the order is your claim that there were more under Biden than under Trump. What is your evidence of that?

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                    Sec, that one I’m sure of as I’ve seen the data going back to trumps first term. Just gotta remember what to Google :/