• Aeri@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Even if we entertain the farcical notion that this was the truth which I’m not convinced it is, at this point I would legitimately consider any ICE agent an immediate threat to my life.

    That’s the excuse that police officers routinely use when they murder somebody, crazy huh? Really makes you think.

    It fucks me up so bad the actual jackbooted thugs are just kind of all over the country now and it is absolutely possible that any one of us could be the next headline when some goon decides to try to flex his non-existent legal authority and kill you for trying to flee from danger.

    Like fuck me man, if I was in that woman’s position I probably would have done something similar and also been shot in the head three times. Some fucko with a lethal weapon trying to rip me out of my car? Yeah I’m fuckin gassing it man.

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    You have to be blind to think he was in danger.

    Out of the car’s way, and wheels are turned in his opposite direction.

    No intention to “ram into him” whatsoever.

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    No she didn’t.

    Edit: I want to expand on this. The Federal agent was standing on the driver’s side, in front of the vehicle. If you’re trying to hit someone with your car, you would turn the wheel in the direction of where that person is standing. When Renee turns her wheel, she turns it in the opposite direction. He’s standing on her left side, she turns the wheel to her right. The agent is well aware of this, which is why he never really makes an effort to get out of the way.

    In general, he does not act like someone who thinks they are in imminent danger of being hit by a car. Shooting into the vehicle is no guarantee of stopping the vehicle from hitting you, so if he actually feared getting hit, he would have made a greater effort to get out of the way. Instead he stands nearly still, only moving slightly. This agent never really feared for his life or felt that there was any real threat.

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      Agree. The video CLEARLY shows the tires turned away from the ski mask wearing goons forcing their way into her stopped vehicle. She was in danger from the start and ice actions only proved it.

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      Yeah, my ex told the police I ran her over with my car when I was trying to get away from her as she tried to break my window with a brick. Thankfully he saw my tire marks moving away and the fast she didn’t have a mark on her.

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      It’s as obvious as can be that she was trying to get away because she knew she’d be taken to a gulag if they kidnapped her. The murderer was angry that she was trying to escape and casually shot her in the face multiple times because he knew that he has carte blanche to murder anyone who resists the regime. Also predictably, the regime gave a completely false version of events so the lie can be parroted endlessly by their cultists.

      I didn’t want to know what it was like to live in Russia.

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        I suspect that depending on the era in Soviet history, guys like this would be held more accountable than we currently do for cops and feds. The Kremlin wouldn’t be okay with subordinates just willy-nilly murdering people, they gave orders on who to murder.

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      I doubt she even knew there was someone in front of her car as she was probably focusing on the camouflaged man with a gun trying to open her car door.

      If you don’t want to get run over, don’t stand in the line of fire. We learn that when we ride the bus and cross the road behind rather than in front of the bus

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          That’s quite far back, I was but a youngster/teenager and I’m not from America. What made rioting warranted back in 2002?

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            Full disclosure, I’m also not American. But I was thinking of the Patriot Act, which IMO was a huge power grab by the Executive Branch and paved the way for a lot of the problems (especially widespread indiscriminate surveillance) that are present today.

            It’s up to the Americans of course, and I remember there being protests about it, but I was really surprised they just let that go on without getting rowdy.

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        It’s helped to be having these conversations on social networks where everyone feels compelled to say “no that’s crazy talk, violence is bad” and comments that say otherwise just go missing.

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      2 days ago

      Hey, now, come on. All the Musk Dickrider bots he bought for use as most of his followers (so he can pretend they’re real people) love him.

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    Pretty sure a few auto drive Teslas have actually ran people over does this mean he’s saying he’s up for summary execution because that’s kinda what it sounds like.