How is this helping? Get out of here with that crap.
newsflash, it always was a police state, they just arnt hiding it anymore. consistently all the MSM had significant amount copaganda on thier networks to “normalize” the bad cop as a good cop, this also extends to military propaganda too,.
IDK, I think most people were just as outraged about George Floyd.
To me it’s important to raise the biggest possible stink about ICE goons actually killing someone, regardless of skin tone.
And it’s not like we didn’t see this coming a mile away, and she’s probably not the last one to die by ICE goons, not to speak of the people who died in detention.
I see a lot of comments like “America is unrecognizable now.” No, this is always how America has been. Difference is now it’s happening to white people and not just POCs and other minorities, and the quiet parts are being said out loud instead of staying quiet.
So much this. And I gotta love ‘The Wire’ for doing a comprehensive view on society from different angles, clearly highlighting the “wrong zip code” effect: bodies that don’t matter because they were black people in a poor neighborhood. Only hurt/dead white people in rich areas get people even remotely interested, especially when looking at the big picture instead of single cases.
It’s only happening to a small subset of white people though. This is how fascism operates. They keep taking chunks out of the complacent masses so they don’t all rise up at once. That’s why solidarity is so important.
Let’s hope they bit off more than they can chew this time but that remains to be seen.
Unfortunately the US was founded on the opposite of solidarity.
Well, where empathy fails fear might succeed. 🤷
Did we all just forget that the nationwide protests that started with George Floyd’s murder started with the police in Minneapolis? No, it’s not the first time and it’s not even Minneapolis’ first time.
Yup. Cops have been killing people indiscriminately in this country for decades. This shit is nothing new. This is what the USA has always been.
The cops need to have their hand guns taken away. Norway has way less killings.
The institution of the police needs to be abolished and our systems of government revolutionized.
In America, even if the police forces were somehow all brainwashed instantly into being righteous people, this wouldn’t be viable cause there are simply too many guns in circulation. Valuing the power to submit others over everything and the MIC are one hell of a drug cocktail!
ICE are not Police
Police obtain legal warrants from judges and district attorneys, apprehend people to be given fair trial and if needed Habeas Corpus right to prove they do not belong in custody.
ICE do not obtain warrants, do not adhere to local laws, they do not respect habeas corpus.
ICE are not Police, ICE are just criminal thugs
You are half right. You are very generous with the theoretical mechanics of policing and perhaps not as familiar with the reality of it.
Perhaps it is naive, but I think the point here was that the police, technically and legally speaking, are much more restricted. As flawed as it is both legally and in actuality, police is still way more restricted and accountable than ICE is both legally and in actuality.
Agreed. Zero accountability is not equivalent to theoretically substantial, but poorly enforced by design accountability.
Native Americans are the OG “first-timers” for these barbarians but they didn’t even leave enough of them to tell the story. 😐
Not true, Native American historians exist today and tell their own stories. Most people just don’t know and don’t listen. Ned Blackhawk is a highly notable example. There are roughly 13 million Native North Americans in the US and there perspective can be heard if you are willing to look for it. AIM is effectively recent history. I want to be clear that I am not critizing you here, I just think that this common mentality glosses over their very active oppression and their fight against it.
Thanks for the correction, man, and fuck the oppressors who continue doing the work of their forefathers. Hell will be too kind for these beasts.
Ah yes, the famous political leanings: Lib and Black.
You clowns being unable to remember what happened in that exact city 6-7 years ago is why we’re in this shit
Edited because I’m bad at time and we’re living in hell
They’ll never realize how insanely offensive it is for someone to say:
Now that I am effected, I recognize there is a problem. Now everyone I’ve been telling to shut up for decades now needs to shut up and do exactly as I say, if you want anything more or even less than me, you’re worse than trump.
Sometimes a hypocrite is just a person in the process of changing. Late is better than never.
I’m not really sure how to put this any simpler…
It would be like if someone was a climate change denier up to five minutes, finally gets it explained in a way they understand, then immediately barge into a giant conference full of world leading experts who have been ringing alarm bells for decades and ahout:
Paper straws, nerds! Everyone’s gonna use paper straws regardless of if they want to, and we’ll break fossil fuel production records again, if you don’t like that you hate the environment!
They still don’t really understand the problem or how to fix it. They’re just zero empathy pompous jackasses who end up driving more people away from the program.
If you’re just joining a large movement that has existed for decades and you opposed until very recently, then don’t try to be a fucking leader. Listen to the people who were able to see it coming years before you and have already been putting in the effort and time…
Did that work?
Are you able to understand what I’m saying now?
I’m posting this with empathy. You’re upset, I am too. Let’s not take it out on each other by creating strawman just to vent, especially to others on our side.
creating strawman
Creating?!
Even the voting members of the DNC recognized it as a problem a year ago, that’s why they kicked neoliberals out of power…
Not only did you not notice any of that, the sheet existence of them is so foreign to you, that you think I invented them?
Whoooosh.
You don’t need to make the noise of something going over your head, it was pretty obvious.
Who are you talking about that did this? Did I miss something?
Sounds to me like you’re telling them to shut the fuck up when many others around you are screaming at them to fucking say something. Figure out a way to maximize the potential of any possible ally. If you can’t figure out how the fuck to do that, ask someone who can help you for help.
You should probably unfuck your mixed signals and work with those others to develop a more cohesive, less unhinged narrative. If you’re not a part of the solution, you’re a part of the fucking problem.
I’m saying the people who spent 30 years fighting progressives instead of Republicans don’t get to suddenly say progressives were kind of right. And then they some logical gymnastics the neoliberals still get to dictate policy.
They are more than welcome to get on the bus, they just need to “shut the fuck up” while the adults who saw this coming 20+ years ago can finally try to fix it with just Republicans fighting them and not also the neolibs.
You get that right?
The absolute best thing neoliberals can do is literally “shut the fuck up” and vote D, the same thing they e been screeching for decades that everyone else needs to do.
It’s seriously not complicated. I know I have a habit of overestimating others, but you really should have been able to figure this out this deep in the comment chain.
These people you’re tilting at, why aren’t you finding them where they are and telling them what they should do? How many of them do you expect to find on Lemmy? Your posting here is for what? The warm fucking fuzzies?
For all the posts you’re willing to make here, you sure as fuck had better be posted up regularly in whatever YouTube channels and Facebook pages they frequent, giving them all orders of magnitude the hellfire and brimstone you’re laying down here.
Otherwise, aside from the handful of users who’ll downvote you, the only other users you’d be here for are those who upvote you. Bitch here if you feel you need to, but for every post here you make, given your apparent anger, you’d better be out there wherever the targets of your ire are setting off ten solar fucking prominences at a time.
Because if you aren’t at least doing that, the only thing you’re really doing here is bitching. Which is fine, so long as you’re honest with yourself about that. As for me, by the time I wake up tomorrow, I’ll long have since forgotten we even had this chat.
That’s pretty fucking fair actually.
It’s desperate. They want to temper any response to this one in particular.
It’s basically “You’re not allowed to be upset about this one or you’re racist.”
Its fun to accuse murder victims of white privilege? That’s a weird hobby.
He’s not making fun of the victims, he’s making fun of the pearl-clutchers.
It’s not the police. It is ICE. 2 completely different things.
Upvoted because correct take and humrous, but the text at the bottom of the top panel should have been made to at least look simialar to the subtitle text of the bottom panel …
Today in being pedantic…
