“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*

A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.

The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.

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      I think these people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even realize that their narrative is bullshit. Nobody in the Administration looked at that video and said “shit, we have a problem” because they’re all True Believers and think they are right about everything.

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        They’re literally in a death cult.

        Yes, they are ‘true believers’, if you wanna phrase it that way.

        Thats… how fascism works, you make up what functionally constitutes a religion, based on mythic narratives revolving around blood and soil, which mentally place the adherent into the role of a religious extremist, fighting for their perverted idea of ‘justice’.

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        Exactly, I’ve seen people on their side saying this video makes the victim look bad…

        These people are too far gone.

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          Some people need an enemy or they can’t make sense of the world. I’m not talking about a run of the mill competitive streak, they simply can’t understand society as anything other than a struggle for dominance. If they don’t have some sort of conflict to focus on, they make one just to quiet the cognitive dissonance they’re feeling.

          I don’t know if it’s learned or innate, but it makes people easy fodder for conspiracy theories and the sort of high-functioning sociopaths we’ve been electing recently.

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        Or course they don’t. The only consistency in their narrative is their incessant need to be right. They say she tried to run ICE over, you show that’s not true. They pivot to she shouldn’t have been running away from the scene of the crime. You tell them there was no crime, they pivot to ICE had a right to detain her. Tell them ICE actually has no right to detain citizens they’ll say how they don’t actually know the law, they can only give their opinion and then loop back around to “she tried to run them over” so she’s in the wrong.

        They’re not interested in getting to the truth, they’re only interested in being right. Since they only care about being right they also don’t care about being internally consistent. They will accept whatever contradictory bullshit as long as it means they’re right.

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        r/conservative full on believes this video DesTrOys tHe LIbS and exonerates the officer.

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        Reminds me of videos from Iraq and Afghanistan and how it made yankistanis so proud of extra judicial killings. Similar to how ISIS did for innocent people.

        So out of touch with empathy.

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      What’s absolutely bonkers is the DHS went out and immediately called her a domestic terrorist. Our tax dollars paid to kill her and post propaganda on x defaming her.

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        They had to immediately make that call.
        Anyone with even an ounce of brain matter sees the true story, but the Trump camp needed to quickly twist the facts to keep the MAGAts on their side and slathering at the mouth.

        This murder is 1000x worse, but the narrative is exactly the same as the ‘immigrants are eating people’s pets’ bullshit.
        All 100% untrue, but the Trump people will continue to lie, double-down and shout their version of the story at every possible moment to drown out the real truth. Which is, they are full of shit, and they know they are full of shit, but they can’t risk showing even the slightest crack in their hold on power, as warped as it is.

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        If you’re a Democrat your car immediately becomes a lethal weapon are you must be stopped by any means necessary -  if the pedestrian is a Republican.

        If you’re a Republican you may use your vehicle to kill any Democrat under any circumstances.

        There’s no attempt to reconcile these two conflicting opinions…from a knuckle dragging Fox viewer to SCOTUS.

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      These morons think this proves they’re right. Vance retweeted the video as said this

      “Watch this, as hard as it is,” Vance wrote. “Many of you have been told this law enforcement officer wasn’t hit by a car, wasn’t being harassed, and murdered an innocent woman. The reality is that his life was endangered and he fired in self defense.”

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        I’ve never wanted to punch someone square in the face quite as much as Vance while watching his press conference. The level of disingeniuty and vileness from these people is somehow still shocking, and I didnt think I could be surprised by how low they could go anymore

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        Yup, they don’t even see the same reality we do. As if his camera shaking was proof he was in danger.

        It’s not hard for them to see the actual explanation, but they have no interest in finding it. Maybe it was shaking because he moved slightly out of the way (which the other video clearly shows) he was firing his gun? No? Right-wing Twitter just wants to feel right and not think too hard about it? Okay.

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          I grew up in a family full of cops and as a kid / teenager I was taken around on ridealongs in the 80s / 90s with family members. I’d be shocked if that’s kosher now, but I’m glad it was something I got to experience back in the day.

          I will never forget watching cops just get out of the way and let a person of interest or suspect drive off. They’d do that, and like clockwork, say “no one outruns Motorola.” (Motorola was the wireless giant at the time.) It wasn’t worth putting lives at risk when you could just knock on that person’s door at a later date.

          This guy wasn’t doing anything by the book. He was escalating, approaching a moving vehicle, he had his firearm in hand, etc. People are literally trained NOT to do everything this guy did. It puts everyone at risk. The officer, the driver, bystanders, etc.

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        The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

        • George Orwell, 1984
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        Then don’t actually believe that. They just don’t care. They’re taunting everyone who isn’t outright evil.

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      They think this is a definitive proof that she tried to kill him. They’re saying this is body cam footage and that him putting his phone down to grab his gun was him getting hit. They’ve already forgotten every other video out there.

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      It looks doctored to me.

      For one thing they made physical contact which we know didn’t happen. For another, it’s 47 seconds long.

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        I’ve seen three videos now and the other two both appear to show contact. Those are the view from above and in front, down the street. It’s quite poor quality but seems to show the killer against the car as it moves away; and the view from behind, which is better quality but a worse angle. It also looks like he was touching the car/contacted by it as it moves off.

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        I did see physical contact in another video.

        It looks like the corner of the car is up against him, but he put himself there and she was clearly turning away from him. Then he just pushes himself off the car as she is turning and shoots her.

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          Nope. It looks like it, but another angle shows it never got anywhere near him, and his first shot was after jumping back, anyway. And also, this video shows him approaching AS IT’S MOVING.

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            I’m not disagreeing with him putting himself on that position. I am not defending this murderer at all, but I don’t think it is helpful to claim there was no contact when there clearly was.