• I think the best way to honor the TRUE MEANING of LIFE, Liberty, and Pursuit of happiness, is to swear on the sock that you um… do that stuff with… to pay respects to the 50% of genetic materials that will never become life, that that you will swear on their names (well… the lack of names) to faithfully execute anyone that abandones their children or emotionally abuses them, and that I do take this oath freely, so help me Saint Mangione.

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    If I become a politician, I will swear on a hentai or a videogame. Things that I care about, and represent me as a person.

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      Asking an officiary to print a specific nhentai no. so you can swear your oath on it would be the funniest fucking thing ever

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    You can take the oath on a fuggin’ Harry Potter book if you want to.

    My .02, everyone taking a oath of office should use the Constitution.

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    I wish my life were so easy that my biggest worry was some random politician, in a place I don’t even live in, swearing their oath on a book I don’t like.

    Goddamnit I hate this world and fucking social media, turning everyone into a mini politician.

    This shit has no material effect on your life, and you should be angry about the stuff that does. (like wages.)

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    Invoking religion is a ridiculous thing to have for a public office anyway, regardless of which one it is. If public officials in the US need to swear on anything, make it the US Constitution or whatever equivalent state/city charter they have.

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      Most of the people who’ve sworn an oath to defend the constitution from domestic enemies — literally tens of millions of Americans — have completely ignored their oath.

      They’re a meaningless virtue signal at this point.

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    Like, if I cared about the reasoning for the bible swearing I wouldn’t want a Muslim swearing on one instead of a Quran. Isn’t this one of the arguments Christians use as to why they don’t want to elect an atheist?

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      The quiet part they’re not saying is that in their minds the fact he doesn’t “believe” in their precious book (not that they follow it much themselves) invalidates him both as a politician and a person. It’s just a more “politically acceptable” excuse for their irrational fear/hatred of someone different from them - they’re afraid all the bullshit they’ve been programmed to believe all their lives about outsiders being out to get them is now going to come to fruition, and they’ll pick at the most absurd things to claim it’s true rather than admit they might be wrong.

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    Well, duh, he has to swear on a book that means something to him, preferably a (to him) holy book. How weird would it be if he swore on a Christian bible. not being Christian himself?

    The book is not there for our cultural values. It’s there to ensure the person swears an oath on something meaningful to them. We just forgot about that because we are used to all sorts of public figures swearing oaths that mean nothing to them.

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      If he swore in on a bible, or any other book, they would say he’s avoiding a quran on purpose because he doesn’t actually want to swear an oath on it

      No matter what he did, they were prepared to complain

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      It truly is amazingly gratifying to see such genuine people as Mamdani & “The Squad” successfully stepping up to make a difference, and enough people actually voting for them to win. It’s honestly the only hope I have left in this shithole.

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        Fully with you there. A lot of people on the left are rapping on Schumer and Jeffries for being too moderate, and rightfully so. But I think there is a part of their extreme caution (or fecklessness) that comes from having seen more leftist candidates go down in flames in the past.

        Having people like Mamdani, AOC, and others win elections decisively makes a huge difference. They are not perfect, but they move the needle in the right (left) direction.

        It’s like the progression from Bush to Trump in reverse.

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          my god, you’ll make up any number of excuses to avoid the fact that democrat politicians are not on your side. they are on the side of the ruling class. wake up.

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              i don’t know what you’re doing, but I didn’t vote for any genocidal or fascist candidates in any election, and I never will

              democrats make fascism inevitable

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        Hate to burst your bubble, but some ‘progressive’ posters are playing the Both Sides Are The Same Card because Mamdani and AOC haven’t called for the US to nuke Israel

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          That’s nice. Every group has their extremists that lack a grounded perspective on achieving their goals & thus want to go too far, too fast (or who go out on their own and actually do so, which only serves to drag down the entire group in the end).

          While I agree we need to at the very least force a regime change in Israel, the reality is there’s little point in calling for “nuking” them now when there’s simply no way it’s going to happen. It would only serve to put off more people from Progressives than keeping their current stance of opposition to Israel’s actions clear, yet not actually calling them “enemies” worthy of nuking will. When Progressives actually have a prayer of accomplishing something and/or see that even the more “center” constituents have finally had enough of Israel - that’s the time to stick their neck out & risk turning off some of their “moderate” supporters on the edge.

          At least that’s my best guess as to their thinking, as I’m not even vaguely the type to be good at playing politics.

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      Does he though? When we were sworn in at MEPS, we didn’t swear “on” anything. We held our hands up as a group and swore “to” protect The Constitution. Clearly that oath didn’t mean as much to many veterans as it did to my friends and me.

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    I’m pretty sure that you could use “Java for dummies” as a book for swearing if you wanted to. It’s the swearing that matter, not the hand rest.