A bombshell new report from CBS News suggests that the Iranian Government has murdered between 12,000 and 20,000 protesters since the ongoing, national revolt against it began.

“Information trickling out of Iran on Tuesday suggests that a crackdown by authorities to end more than two weeks of widespread anti-government protests has likely been far more deadly than activists outside the country have reported,”

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    Bombshell report is right. This report was literally made to precede bombs.

    Western media always gets played by the cia, state department, israel, et al.

    There might be protests, they are associated with the west, on issues the west exacerbated the problems of for this purpose, helped in Iran, but also agent provokateurs to stir up violence.

    Protesters are pawns, media is a bishop perhaps, in fomenting another iran war. If we can use a chess analogy when one player lacks major pieces.

    If you think the us and israel are going to make anything better, it explains how we got into our own political position.

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    Literally atrocity propaganda.

    This is the Iran equivalent of the beheaded babies.

    CBS is owned by Larry Ellison and run by Bari Weiss. Zionist fanatics who are Israel first.

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    CBS News

    12,000 and 20,000 protesters

    Dawg Pakistan wasn’t even able to arrest that many people in the past 2 years worth of protests against an army with actual firepower that has been working overtime to get people killed.

    It even took Gaza a solid month to reach those numbers under constant bombing campaigns and a wall of IFVs.

    Iran’s internet has only been complete blackout for 4 days, so unless they decided to unload several war days worth of ammunition in a purge killing spree, this isn’t possible. AP is reporting 2.7k.

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      News orgs are getting orders from ellison getting orders from the administration. Apparently they do not feel they need people in reality to be on board with iran war 2 so they just supply obviously obscenely inflated figures.

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      The regime admitted to 2,000.

      And while 12,000 is the highest number I’ve seen so far, it’s got to be somewhere between those figures.

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      Israel especially. They need war to forestall elections and accounting for blame that their politicians have refused to accept any of. And to forestall their own criminal prosecutions.

      Israel’s epstein blackmail seemingly gives them absolute power over the government here. This is their doing, Iran their long standing boogeyman they pretend is advanced enough to hurt them.

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    CBS is currently beholden to the Nazi’s and I don’t know if I trust their reporting. It would be in the US’ best interest to show Iranian instability as well as how violent “real” protesting is to try and dissuade domestic ideas.

    That said. If Iran is murdering 10k citizens a week, their government won’t last through the end of the month. One can only hope.

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      20,000 soldiers were killed on the first day of the Somme in WWI which involved literally mowing down rows of soldiers with machine gun. We would see plenty of evidence if this was happening to civilians in cities even without internet.

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      Any unrest in iran right now will be associated with the us and israel, and be ruthlessly crushed for that reason, coming on the heels of israel’s bullshit.

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              Qatar is a country that try to keep an image of the country who get along with everybody that’s why it has good relation with the two enemies the usa and iran.

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            Just weird to say “I don’t trust reporting from a state-influenced source. I’ll wait until I hear reporting from media owned by a different state with an even more vested interest.”

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              Exposing yourself to propaganda, if you understand it’s propaganda, is just another piece of data to anyone seriously trying to understand the situation. Propaganda exposes desire. Knowing that Al Jazeera is Qatari state media, one could want to hear what Qatar wants people to think is happening, and compare that to what western media wants you to think is happening, and compare that to other sources etc etc. Comparing propaganda against trusted and vetted sources exposes lies.

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              Everything is owned by someone. Al Jazeera leans left, and yes they’re a state run media organization, but they’re more factual than not according to ground news. Perhaps the reason Al Jazeera hasn’t published the death toll is because they can’t verify it and their journalistic integrity prevents them from echoing unverifiable rumors.

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      Yup. Whatever’s coming out of CBS on topics where Israel has vested interest, there’s a good chance of hasbara. Could still be true but a bucket of salt is recommended.

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    I really, really hope the protesters succeed. Iran has such a glorious history and wonderful people - they deserve so much more. It could retake its place as the shining example of countries in the region, as it was for most of the last 5000 years.

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    Oi, that’s more then most tiananmen square massacre estimates. Must be crazy to be there right now.

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          That’s exactly why sanctions are not good. Those 2,000 dead were motivated to have a better life that they could already have without the sanctions.

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    To all those who keep calling for acts of violence in the US I ask: how many will Dementia Donny kill in response?

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      Look man. Some people are very willing to do everything they can with their life on the line. At some point an end to your life is preferable to the state of oppression.

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      I’m convinced that many of the people calling for violence from the left in response to the administration’s behavior are the same ones that pushed the right into extremism over the past 30 years.

      Division and chaos are the intent and they’re playing both sides to achieve their goals. The last thing they want is for people to sit down and talk to each other.

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        Oh yes, blame the rise of fascism on the people whose sole goal it is to stop fascism. Real genius here.

        If someone punches you and says shut up or Im gonna punch you even harder, the correct response is not to shut up.

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          He is not blaming the left.

          people calling for violence from the left

          That’s not the left

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            Doesnt really matter who exactly is meant. They are saying theres a group of people who ‘pushed’ the right to extremism. Thats just bullshit. This was the goal from the start and its noone but them pushing it with lies and hate.

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        No one on the left has anything to do with the violence that’s a core tenant of fascism and capitalism or corpratism if you want to get real specific. No one is egging the proud boys on, anymore than black folks existing was the cause of KKK bombings and terrorist attacks. These people aren’t responding to anything, this has always been their goal.

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        I’m convinced that many of the people calling for violence from the left in response to the administration’s behavior are the same ones that pushed the right into extremism over the past 30 years.

        Do you believe you have good reasons for thinking so?

        I would be interested in seeing you lay out what convinced you. It seems to me that the only thing these calls for violence have in common is just that: they are calls to violence. How can you possibly draw any parallels beyond that without completely minimizing how unprecedented a situation it is we find ourselves in?

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        It abso-fucking-lutely smells like manufactured messaging. Aka propaganda.