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    That’s basically how we in Germany dealt with fascists less than a century ago. Talk to them, convince them and win on the market place of ideas. Didn’t work back then because we didn’t have social media which is key in good faith debate and exchange of ideas.

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      As scummy as they are, they kind of have a point there. Infuriating to think how many missed chances have passed to improve Americans’ lives because of a 49-51 vote.

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    Schumer’s next “strongly worded letter” needs to be one of resignation. Let someone with a spine be in charge

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      There should be a cutoff age for politicians. Man’s in his mid 70s, he should be at home enjoying his family, not acting as an anchor on the “fascism is actually bad” party.

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        His family is his wife Iris Weinshall, Rudy Giuliani’s Transportation Commissioner. Notorious for suing the city in 2011 to try and force the removal of the flagship two-way protected bike lane on Prospect Park West. She’s currently the COO of the New York Public Library (Mamdani has been mayor for nearly a month and the NYPL leadership page still lists Adams as mayor. Ironic, he spent a lot of energy trying to destroy NYPL).

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        The geriatric out of touch pushovers aren’t going to term limit themselves out of office, they won’t pass a term limit. It’ll require a full purge of these geezers with younger politicians to be able to get that passed. Unless we get an influx of younger candidates willing to implement term limits, we’re stuck like this.

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          Of course they won’t, there are very few Cincinnatti amongst us, and the nature of power and money is that it tends to accumulate over time. I don’t know how any society gets out of the trap of gerontocracy.

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    Did you all know that there was a bipartisan suit against the DOJ that went to a judge? They and a few republicans are doing stuff, you just don’t hear about it or the headlines are total crap. Like this one:

    U.S. Rep. Ro Khanna, a California Democrat, and Rep. Thomas Massie, a Kentucky Republican, say they have “urgent and grave concerns” about the slow release of only a small number of millions of documents that began last month.

    In a filing to the judge they said they believed “criminal violations have taken place” in the release process.

    Clayton, though, said Khanna and Massie do not have standing with the court that would allow them to seek the “extraordinary” relief of the appointment of a special master and independent monitor.

    https://apnews.com/article/epstein-congress-neutral-expert-dfff6c2f06162a4a7a637fe22c4e2dc1

    The article and the headline are the biggest POS. AP, fucking do better.

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      SCOTUS isn’t democratically elected. SCOTUS was stacked by cheating the system through obstruction.

      I suspect the last election was stolen at the polls since the prior attempt to circumvent the electoral college didn’t work. Republicans have been working to steal elections for decades and claiming Dems were fhe ones doing it.

      Voter suppression and Dems shooting themselves in the dick also play a part, but cheating is the tie breaker.

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        It’s because the U.S. has the dumbest illusions of democracy. A two party system where people’s votes don’t actually count.

        It’s not like I’m happy with the way my country does it, but it’s leaps and bounds better at representing what people vote for, and at least your vote actually counts here.

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    Democratic leaders are chosen for their ability to fund-raise.

    He’s popular with the people who write checks. They think he’s effective; because for them, he is.

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    If you think, after all of this time, that the Democrats are opposed to anything in earnest instead of just having to pretend to be shocked but incapable while their pockets are full, then idk what to tell you.

    Also, let’s be real for a second: if voting had any effect on power or the direction of the nation, truly, then you wouldn’t be allowed to vote. Regardless of which puppet you pick, they’re paid by either the same or competing financial interests, and none of them care about you or doing the right thing. They’re just there for the bag, like every person before them was besides perhaps a couple of exceptions in the entirety of American history. No, power is in the hands of capital, and the amoral whores you call your representatives follow their whims and then turn around and play their roles to trick you and you keep falling for it, generation after generation, because you don’t have any convictions or beliefs in earnest to stand against nonsense and spin, your brains are atrophied and your education system turned you into adults who know the Pledge of Allegiance (lol) but can only read at a 6th grade level (and at an American 6th grade level at that).

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      “Voting doesn’t matter” is the stupidest myth I continue to encounter. Voting matters A LOT, which is why certain political parties try to restrict it as heavily as they can.

      Every election cycle, monied interests spend billions and billions of dollars on ads alone to influence as many voters as possible for a reason. They know the power of a vote, and spend their vast resources accordingly. Pretending voting doesn’t matter makes you a useful idiot at best.

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        You’re right. Run a progressive in a democrat primary and all of the sudden Dems care very much about winning and will spend millions to bury you and ensure the establishment candidate wins.

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        It doesn’t because regardless of which candidate you vote in, American imperialism keeps on moving, reality has shown us this. Obama had record breaking drone strikes, Biden had record breaking deportations, every politician in power is nothing but a scapegoat, paid handsomely and even promised wonderfully paid positions in the companies they support, by the people they actually work for. And if you think Trump is the reason for the collapse and restructuring of the American empire, then you don’t understand geopolitics. It’s just easier to get the spin to work if the people feel like they’re being listened to, that democracy works, so it’s better to fudge those numbers and gerrymander (which is legal) to make things smooth, but things move in the same direction regardless, just with different degrees of friction.

        This is what’s gonna happen: either Trump remains in power because Americans think protests and SNL skits are working strategies against the abuse of the capitalist class/the Republicans and things move smoothly, or the Democrats do some sort of coup or are supported by the same institutions and financial groups of interest that supported Trump into power, that rescues the nation from Trump whilst largely continuing the same policies, in and outside the country, whilst the population feels like they finally defeated that one monster behind everything (lol). This all depends on analytics, on think tank papers, one way or another power will continue moving and by now, with white supremacy on one hand and Democrat anger on the other, this has never been easier. And we’ll do it all over again in some years time!

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    How is the dude with the equivalent charm of a vomiting donkey in charge?

    Because leftists post memes instead of voting?

    Or maybe there just isn’t enough leftists voters, even if all the internet warriors vote?

    That’s what the election results indicate at least.

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      If leftists are so significant that we influence elections, then pass progressive legislation. If leftists are so insignificant than we can be ignored, then stop blaming us.

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        The Democrats are like abusers. Its the left’s fault if they don’t win, or they didn’t need the left after all when they do. We’re significant of a voting block and not so in the same breathe.

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        If leftists are so significant that we influence elections, then pass progressive legislation.

        Everyone is significant enough to influence elections.

        Not enough voters want progressive legislation, we can prove this with election results.

        Being pro-democracy means voting for the lesser of 2 evils when your legislation isn’t popular enough to get passed.

        The GOP has a history of easily tricking leftists into not voting.

        Leftists were tricked into not voting for Harris because of Palestine and now Trump is building a new resort on Gaza beach.

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          Being pro-democracy means voting for the lesser of 2 evils

          The “lesser evil” has ceased to represent progressives, both practically and morally.

          On practical grounds, there are problems that have been with us for decades. To name a few examples: corporate bailouts/subsidies, expanding presidential powers, the increasing wealth gap, stagnating wages, environmental destruction, no climate tax, increasing government surveillance, the increasing military industrial complex, no federally mandated maternity leave, universal healthcare, no codification of reproductive rights, the 50 year decline of the middle class, etcetera.) When Democrats are in office, they delay some of the Republican agenda (temporally) but do not address these larger issues. Even when we get a blue majority, there are always a couple of Democrats that impede progress. As these problems have continued for decades, the logical conclusion is that Democrats are either incompetent or complicit.

          On moral grounds, Democrats have supported far too many white supremacist / imperialist policies that benefit the wealthy elite. Democrats have voted for “tough on crime” policies that disproportionately affect people of color. (The recent expansion of ICE could have been prevented by Democrats. Yet Chuck Schumer is now calling for ICE reform instead of abolition.) Democrats have supported immoral wars and covert CIA operations in order to further our global hegemony and corporate profits – at the expense of Latin America, Africa, the Middle-East, and East Asia. The literal genocide of the Palestine people is still funded with US tax dollars. (If you think this is a “trick”, then it’s because you have no principles to stand on.) Democrats just voted to give Israel billions of dollars to continue the genocide.

          There simply is no party to vote for to address these issues. While I don’t blame anyone who continues to vote to delay the Republican agenda, the “lesser of two evils” rationale is precisely what led us into a fascist oligarchic police-state.

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            When Democrats are in office, they delay *some* of the Republican agenda (temporally) but do not address these larger issues.

            A super majority is required to address these issues anyone pretending otherwise is being disingenuous or has been tricked into ignorance.

            Even when we get a blue majority, there are always a couple of Democrats that impede progress.

            Those examples are of people voting against the Democratic Party. But you conveniently group them with the democrats they vote against.

            Some specific examples of people who voted with republicans is Sinema and Fetterman. Both of which ran as progressives. According to your logic we should be blaming all progressives for their actions and using it as an excuse to let Trump take over the world.

            The fact of the matter is that the GOP will run their own candidates as democrats to get in office in districts that are blue then their candidate will vote against the Democratic Party. For example, Manchin. The GOP will then leverage this to claim both sides are the same and trick leftists into letting the government move further right by not voting. This works on leftists who are too oblivious to notice that these “democrats” are voting against the Democratic Party.

            So now we have far right extremists running all parts of the government because leftists have been tricked so easily into believing that both sides are the same by the GOP and foreign bots that benefit from Trump being in office.