• NABDad@lemmy.world
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    Until the punishments are targeting the people hiring undocumented workers, it’s all just racist bullshit.

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    Nations have a duty to protect their borders, that said give people who have been here for many years, with no criminal record, a way to get expedited citizenship. We need a better work permit system for people who want to work here temporarily.

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    Could make a good president.

    It’s a shame morons will cheer for the california guy over Mamdani or AOC.

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    Obama absolutely deported a massive number of people, historically high numbers, enough that immigration advocates at the time openly called him the “Deporter-in-Chief.” That part is not a myth.

    The difference is how those deportations were carried out. Under Obama, enforcement was largely focused on recent border crossers and people already in custody, often through expedited removals. It was bureaucratic, procedural, and mostly invisible to the public. There weren’t constant interior raids, and long-term residents were increasingly deprioritized later in his presidency.

    Trump, on the other hand, did not surpass Obama’s totals, but he radically changed the operating philosophy. Interior enforcement was aggressive, highly visible, and deliberately public. Priority categories were loosened to the point of meaninglessness, and the enforcement itself became part of the political messaging.

    So if you’re talking about raw numbers, Obama qualifies. If you’re talking about tactics, visibility, and the lived experience inside the country, Trump’s approach is what most people actually mean when they say “mass deportation.” Same machinery. Very different mode of operation.

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      They are both turds. It is just one is dressed in a snappy tan suit, and the other is a orange shitgibbon.

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    Really unfortunate the only public figure that has stepped into the void left by this DNC is not eligible to run for president.

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      There’s still Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I’d vote for her in a heartbeat.

      I guess the only problem is that the voters of the US have proved themselves to still be a bit too sexist, with Clinton followed by Harris.

      Personally, I put that at the feet of conservative women. When Obama ran, the African American vote showed up, he got a lot of support from voters that often leaned conservative. When women run, all too often it’s the female vote that doesn’t show up.

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        My problem is that AOC voted to stop the rail unions from striking. Funny how democrats can do so much nothing now, yet can flex so hard when a working class movement has momentum.

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        I think AOC would be able to overcome the sexism because she actually cares about the working class, unlike the establishment plants that reinforce the notion that our government doesn’t serve us.

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          Claiming “sexism” is how you obfuscate that the candidates were garbage people.

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            Ouch… So then you must be of the opinion that Trump won the election on his merits?

            Perhaps it was his fiscal responsibility that won him the day?

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    If the government actually was doing what they claimed — targeting violent criminals — basically no one would push back, assuming they’re not violating anyone’s rights. But of course they won’t do that and it’s clear as day the whole thing is pure racism.

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      Fascists always want a thin veneer of legitimacy applied to their brutal oppression. Also gives the bootlickers something to parrot rather than actually thinking about what they’re doing.

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    Integrity, conviction. He is a breath of much needed fresh air. Mr. Mamdani continues to show us what a leader, who actually cares, looks like. I hope he can inspire more to stand up and say that enough is enough; ICE has to go.

    This is such an easy message to get behind. There are millions of people out there that support abolishing ICE right now. The democrats need a total united front with a clear message: ICE must be dismantled, and they will stoop to whatever level is necessary to get the job done. They need to crowdsource identifying agents who committed the heinous acts and bring them to justice, or at the very least, into the light. Every single one involved is part of the conspiracy, and bears the responsibility for all of their sadistic brothers’ crimes.

    This must happen, now. Every single democrat has to get in line for this to have a chance of working. There has got to be a way to interrupt the states crimes against the people of our nation.

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        Are they? I see quite a few far-right movements gaining traction around the world. That combined with the governments of other countries being reluctant to take decisive action against the US is not an encouraging sign.

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          As of yesterday, I think the decisive action has begun. Financially and militarily should the US attempt to invade Greenland.

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            I very much hope so! Fascism must be aggressively opposed wherever it pops up!

            But really, the US should be sanctioned and ostracized whether it invades or not.

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      Does the US keep the laws immigrations & customs technically enforce, especially as they had during previous administrations before Trump warped them into his state terrorist brigade?

      Keeping the laws while abolishing their enforcers smacks of feel-good idiocy. The police are still horrible. Why not abolish them & keep the laws: we can depend on humanity to deal with all legal & criminal matters there, too, right?

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        But there would be a different crisis because democrats kicked the ball forward on immigration for over a decade. There was never a hard plan.

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        And no murder will happen if every person doesn’t murder anyone, but we all know that is just a fantasy.

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    The MOST Popular Democrat in America supports ABOLISHING ICE? Quick! Write down “BODYCAMS!”

    -Democrats with No Primary Challengers in the Midterms!