Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.ca
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      Not really. Remember Wilhoit’s Law:

      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

      When they do it, its castle doctrine and qualified immunity and civil rights. When anyone else does it its terrorism. Your comment makes me think you haven’t fully digested the situation and still think the US is a nation of laws. If so, you are gravely mistaken.

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        There’s no justice under the Robert’s court. There wasn’t any before the Robert’s court, but there isn’t any now either.

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      Sure doesn’t. And since we’re not abiding by laws anymore there’s no reason for the people to keep playing fair. I wonder if they’re ready for booby trapped doors?

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    So just to be clear. The EPA cannot make regulations despite full congressional authority to do so because that is “creating law” without a direct legislative process. But ICE, an agency that doesn’t even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?

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        Which by DEFINITION, would not include Un-Constitutional behavior. No violation of the Constitution could ever be construed as an “Official Act.”

        No SCOTUS had ever put guardrails on the president in almost 250 years, but this SCOTUS reinforced that he has immunity for “Official Acts,” and nobody realizes that they just put guardrails on the presidency for the first time.

        Everybody thinks it gives him immunity for EVERYTHING while he is president, but they specifically said “Official Acts,” which would be those outlined in the Constitution. Anything deemed Un-Constitutional, would not be an “Official Act,” and he would not have immunity, just like any other citizen.

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      EPA could absolutely just ignore the law when making regulations. It wouldn’t even need any congressional authority. It just makes the law and when someone sues them, the judge says “nah, it’s okay with me” and that’s it.

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        Yeah I don’t think the kirk fountain worked out as well as they’d hoped when they tried to capitalize on it.

        That said, I don’t think the escalation will stop anyway, so self defense is worth it.

        For anyone who will be purchasing a firearm, please, please go to a range. Practice with it. Be familiar with how it works, maintenance, and basic repairs, and store it responsibly.

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          Yup, the most likely people to get shot with a gun are the owner and the owner’s family. Gotta know what the hell you’re doing.

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            100%.

            I’ve handled a gun from a fairly young age, taught by my grandfather, a ww2 vet. Over the years I’ve shot skeet, some shooting competitions for fun, etc.

            The most dangerous people I’ve ever seen at any of those places/events were the kind of people who loved buying lots and lots of guns, especially the 2A nuts who claim its all about protecting from the tyranny of the federal government. IMO, they just wanted to feel powerful - and as a result, they were negligent and dangerous. I know one of them who shot themselves in the leg pretty recently, because they ignored the most basic rule - treat every gun as if its always loaded. Guess what? That one was! And now he has a hole in his leg.

            Sorry for getting into a rant there.

            Guns are horrifically dangerous and should always be treated as such.

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              Yup. I’m the type of person to hit 8/10 clay pigeons and complain about wasting ammo. And the most dangerous people I’ve seen at a range are the dudes with the lifted pickups on dirt tires (which have never been in the dirt). They treat gun ownership like cosplay.

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                They treat gun ownership like cosplay.

                Damnit, you just said it perfectly in one short phrase, and I just rambled.

                That’s exactly the type I’m talking about.

                I’m a big fan of clay rabbits, the random hops make it so much fun!

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              My experience has been the polar opposite. Everyone I’ve met at ranges and competitions were very mindful and responsible people that were knowledgeable about the laws and history of the hobby. The most irresponsible gun handling I’ve ever witnessed was the one year I went to deer camp with a former coworker.

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                I’d say the overwhelming majority were mindful and responsible, what I commented on were the ones at those places and events that were not.

                Could also be a regional thing - a few of them ive been to were in states that think the civil war was about states rights, and leave off the part about the rights being about owning people.

                The one I mentioned where someone recently made an air hole in their leg is from one of those states.

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                  Fair enough. I’ve never competed down south but having family in Georgia I’m all too familiar with the “War of Northern Aggression” types.

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    What these dumbasses aren’t realizing is that this fascist administration wants these “agents” to get killed for stepping into the wrong house so they can use it as further justification for excessive force. Every ICE agent with boots on the ground is just a sacrificial lamb for their racist agenda.

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      and what other dumbasses aren’t realizing is that force is going to be escalated regardless, so you might as well kill them instead of get killed

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      Well you’re getting butt fucked regardless so you might as well go out doing some butt fucking of your own. Give me 🗽 or give me ☠️‼️

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      Nonsense, if they get killed they very quickly stop acting like they have all the power and immunity, which they absolutely seem to still have. There is only ONE way to deal with bullies/narcissists/… and that is escalation.

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        Not just any random escalation, though.

        The narcissist has a plan they are following their game. If that escalation is part of their plan, that’s is absolutely not how you deal with them. Escalate, by all means. But only in a way that benefits your situation.

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          Ah yes because Trump has any sort of grand plan, sure sure. Well I guess let’s just bow down then and capitulate, the 5D chess expert will beat us anyway.

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      Nothing. And they are testing the water to see how much they can do without judges. So when they start standing outside polling booths they won’t get any government pushback.

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    And just as we always suspected, all those “2nd Amendment Absolutists” are doing sweet fuck all.

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    Nowhere in that article did it even imply that the Supreme Court would support warrantless entry into a person’s home. In fact, it said that this policy contradicts many years of court precedent.

    This is just more legal manipulation of the Constitution. Just have some psychopath MAGA traitor INVENT his own law, write it down (because he’s one of the few that can), and all the rest of them can wink and agree that since it is written down, and called a MEMO, it is perfectly legal, and a reasonable basis for an entire predatory and parasitic paramilitary enforcement operation. It is NOT.

    However, they will proceed as of it is, without tipping anyone off for as long as possible, and when it finally gets discovered, and challenged in court, they’ll slowly drag it through the legal process, all the whole continuing to follow the policy as if it is a perfectly legal and reasonable policy that is just having a little regulatory snafu, as peoples’ lives get systematically destroyed, along with all of America.

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        In a country where you can be shot for ringing the wrong doorbell or turning around in the wrong driveway it’s only a matter of time before these idiots get the wrong house.

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        it’s only a matter of time, you guys kill cable guys and postmen, imagine when randos get their doors kicked in by ICE.

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      And then they burn your house down with you in it. Is that part of your plan, because it’s their plan.