Dig this big crux.

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      My conservative grandma who votes R every time because of abortion had an abortion for an ectopic pregnancy. When my mother was pregnant with me at fifteen, she offered her an abortion.

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      I’ve read that conservatives model the world as “strict rules that have exceptions made on a case by case basis”. That maybe works if you’re in a small village. Smarter people realize that doesn’t scale and you should write better rules in the first place.

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    “I thought they’d make an exception for my abortion” sobs woman who voted for the Women Dying of Pregnancy Complications Party.

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    The treatment for an unwanted pregnancy is abortion.

    People really dance around this issue, but we simply need to give women access to safe abortions for unwanted pregnancies.

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      No no, the compassionate approach is to force the women to bear the child, raise it in poverty and neglect if not outright constant abuse, wash out into the foster care system, grow up with no skills and fewer prospects, become homeless and then round them up and throw them in prison when they use drugs to cope with their shit lives. Just like Jesus wants, you baby murderer!

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      As a millionaire living my best life, I’m giving $30k to the first 20 people who message me ‘grace.’ I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help reduce that burden.

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        As a billionaire living my best life, I’m taking $30m from the first 200 people who don’t message me ‘stinkleton’. I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help increase that burden.

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    Living in poverty in America with children is a fate worse than death. Abortion is mercy in a dystopia run by pedofile patriarchal narcissist who wish to enslave us all

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      As a millionaire living my best life, I’m giving $30k to the first 20 people who message me ‘grace.’ I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help reduce that burden.

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    Ok, so science story time. I’m not a doctor.

    The female human’s reproductive tract is somewhat loosey-goosey. There is a direct path between the outside world, through the vagina, through the cervix, through the uterus, through the fallopian tubes and into the female abdomen. Not literally, but figuratively the ovaries “float” in the abdomen, just outside of the entrance to the fallopian tubes.
    While discussing this with a doctor once, I asked, “Since the ovaries are not directly connected to the fallopian tubes, when an egg erupts from an ovary, what ensures that the egg enters the fallopian tubes and heads to the uterus?”
    She replied, “Not much. Occasionally the egg will stay in the abdominal cavity and implant there.”

    So think about that for a second. It’s not uncommon for a human eggs to float into the female abdomen, attach and begin growing. That’s called an “ectopic pregnancy”. If you know enough women who trust you, you’ll likely know at least one who’s had surgery for an ectopic pregnancy.

    So think about that for another second. If you know someone who is against abortions, be sure to ask them how they suggest solving ectopic pregnancies.

    If they don’t have an answer, consider what it would be like to die from one.

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    My wife literally had to have all three of those while we were trying to have our twins. She had a double whammy of a rogue ectopic they couldn’t find on scans and an empty gestational sac in the uterus that wouldn’t pass. They knew there had to be an ectopic somewhere because her hCG levels weren’t tracking with what they should be with what they could see on the scans.

    So the Catholic hospital we were at gave her multiple courses of methotrexate to make sure they got the ectopic. Multiple scripts for I believe it was Misoprostol to try to pass the miscarriage. But when that didn’t work and she showed up to a monitoring appointment with signs of sepsis, they immediately took her in for emergency surgery to remove it.

    Then when we finally got our twins we had to do a late term selective termination because the pregnancy was originally quads, one died early enough to be reabsorbed but was conjoined at the umbilical cord to her twin. That twin had a massive stroke during some crucial brain development weeks and we found out at 20 weeks that she had basically no brain and her constant seizures were actively killing the other two and might even cause her to lose the entire pregnancy.

    Literally the only option to save the two healthy twins was to terminate that triplet. Abortion is literally the only reason my twins are alive today.

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        Sad chuds who can’t argue with the need for abortion in my wife’s particular case but still hate it generally? idk.

        I can’t tell you how many conservatives I’ve talked to about abortion with our particular story who just viscerally hate it as a concept because in their minds 90% of the people using it are just floozies who can’t keep their legs closed. Let me tell you, the existential crisis so many of them have when I tell them that even if that were the case, there is no possible way stop just those abortions without also killing babies like my twins is crazy.

        Like yeah Buddy, every second that triplet was having those seizures the risk we just lost all three of them grew. On top of that we were measurably watching the two healthy babies slip down the fetal growth charts. As in they were on one growth curve, and they dropped down to a lower curve because the seizures were stealing all the nutrients my wife’s body had. There was a vary real possibility that one or both of these little barely over 20 week old fetuses just died while we waited for this surgery with them rushing absolutely everything because NY is no questions asked before 24 weeks. We finally had it as just over 22 weeks. Sure, theoretically they could have done their “morality check” in those 2 weeks. But realistically that’s not going to happen. What’s actually going to happen is exactly what we already see happening in places where women are dying or nearly dying of sepsis because of these bans.

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    this is one of their few opportunities for virtue signaling so when you pull the rug out and highlight hypocrisy it’s very upsetting to the mental gymnast

    we’re supposed to vote for shit that doesn’t make sense and enjoy the many asterisks for special cases! these are the “loophole” people after all

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    I’ll just never understand how they look at abortion as murder of a human and then commit a genocide against some brown people somewhere else. Literal demons.

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      I’d say it’s entirely about power/control for them. The ones who are not in power, especially the women, are just being duped by their propaganda.

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        As a millionaire living my best life, I’m giving $30k to the first 20 people who message me ‘grace.’ I understand that many people are struggling with bills, and I want to help reduce that burden.

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        That’s not their view. It’s just something the leaders say because it’s politically convenient and the rest just parrot the line. If anything with a heartbeat was really so important to them, they’d all be vegetarian.

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    Here’s the thing though. When THEY need it, it’s ok. They’ll just pop over to the next state and nobody back home will ever know. They have absolutely no problem being hypocrites in any aspect of their lives.

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      Not if it was diagnosed in a regressive state.

      The record of the pregnancy doesn’t go away and because any reasonable obstetricians that can, leaves the state they are likely to end up with the Christian™️ ones that will report them for murder.

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      They’ll just pop over to the next state and nobody back home will ever know

      Not the poor ones. The poor ones die.

      Class war, not culture war.