• Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    The one thing I’m not seeing is anyone talking about the response of the ice agents. Not only are they immediately retreating for the fear of their own lives and or self preservation against prosecution, but they are not battle hardened, and equally surprised.

    In no way is this retreat a good thing, even if you’re trying to be the big guys in the room.

    I’m 99% certain at this point that we need to go the Black panther route and open carry everywhere.

    On top of this, they’re not even attempting rendering aid, and have been documented preventing it.

    That said, this unorganized mess can be overcome, and easily with even a barely moderately trained group.

      • Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
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        1 day ago

        Damn. Hard to tell specifically what happens. Looks like the shooter felt like a third wheel and was groping for “tasks”, pulls his gun to cover I guess, possibly has an accidental discharge trying to handle his weapon while keyed up on adrenaline and in a dog pile, then panics and starts shooting more. I also wonder if the dead guy, if he did in fact ave a gun on him, I wonder if they fired his gun trying to remove it, then panicked and started shooting.

        At any rate, this type of thing is 100% inevitable when you give a bunch of guys with poor to no training unlimited power, zero accountability, and murky marching orders. This is why the whole ICE program is fundamentally unethical. Completely rudderless violence.

        • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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          Just to make sure terminology is correct. There is no such thing as accidental discharge. They are negligent discharge. Accident are like whoops I spilled my milk. When you’re given a firearm you’re responsible for its state at all times. Never point it at anything you do not intend to kill.