What if you’re a passenger? But also how could they enforce it if you’re just using data through a chat app? If they disable data, that means they also disable maps and navigation.
In case you’re serious. The comment I was replying to suggested that telecom companies could disable texting by detecting who is driving using the phone’s movement data. But that movement data will be the same for the driver and the passengers, so they only show that you are in a vehicle, not necessarily driving. So using this would also block texting for passengers which doesn’t make any sense.
As the others have said, this is actually a complicated problem without easy solutions.
The only way I could see it working is if you were required to register the driver’s phone in the car, required to connect it (wirelessly or not) when driving, and then monitor it. Basically, combine the phone and the car key. There’d also need to be authentication to make sure the driver doesn’t register a burner phone to turn their car on or register a friend/partner’s phone. Then, of course, you’d have to refit all the cars already on the road to add this requirement, which is especially hard for pre-2010 cars.
And everyone would hate it. I’m all for pissing off motorists, but they’re kind of the societal majority.
It’s only an unsolvable problem if you haven’t ever been to any other place than the US. Like so, so many things. I don’t get why you guys keep thinking you have to reinvent the wheel, when the rest of the world has solved the same issues decades ago.
You know speed cameras? Modern ones can detect a phone in a hand. And they only store images of that when they detected law-breaking behavior, so they are fine in terms of privacy.
Decades ago? What are you talking about? As far as I can tell distracted driving detection software is an extremely recent technological development that’s been adopted in a few countries in the past few years. The UK was first I think, in 2021. France and Germany only upgraded in the last year. I don’t need to be mocked for missing out on the latest and greatest in traffic enforcement technology, and I don’t appreciate being talked down to like I’m fucking stupid or the butt of a fucking joke.
Smartphone detection cameras are relatively recent and I pointed them out because they are the best solution that exists so far.
But laws against using your phone while driving, we had them already decades ago, and we had other solutions before the cameras. E.g. placing police next to the highway and letting them pull everyone out who uses their phone. We had that too decades ago. And that too works.
But it’s not only that. There are posts all the time about Americans being surprised that speed cameras exist, that red light cameras cameras exist, that speed limits are things that can actually be enforced and so on.
Today there was even a post about some road being restructured with sidewalks, pedestrian crossings and shrubbery, and that was seen as something revolutionary by all the americans in the thread, and not something that the rest of the world has been doing since the 50s and that’s already way outdated compared to what’s happening now.
The US is a total backwater country where everything that benefits regular people happens 50 years later.
But will it be enforced?
This is bullshit, Telcos could easily disable texting and driving. They could tell who is driving looking at the 6 axis movement data.
the 30 people on the bus: “what?”
What if you’re a passenger? But also how could they enforce it if you’re just using data through a chat app? If they disable data, that means they also disable maps and navigation.
Why would the passengers need to not use cellphones?
Well exactly, but they’d have the same movement as the driver
“but they’d have the same movement as the driver” What?
In case you’re serious. The comment I was replying to suggested that telecom companies could disable texting by detecting who is driving using the phone’s movement data. But that movement data will be the same for the driver and the passengers, so they only show that you are in a vehicle, not necessarily driving. So using this would also block texting for passengers which doesn’t make any sense.
Yeah, I was serious, I just did think the other person was that questionable with his thinking, trying not to insult that person.
I ride the bus. How would it tell the difference between me, and a driver? Or a passenger of a car someone else is driving?
As the others have said, this is actually a complicated problem without easy solutions.
The only way I could see it working is if you were required to register the driver’s phone in the car, required to connect it (wirelessly or not) when driving, and then monitor it. Basically, combine the phone and the car key. There’d also need to be authentication to make sure the driver doesn’t register a burner phone to turn their car on or register a friend/partner’s phone. Then, of course, you’d have to refit all the cars already on the road to add this requirement, which is especially hard for pre-2010 cars.
And everyone would hate it. I’m all for pissing off motorists, but they’re kind of the societal majority.
It’s only an unsolvable problem if you haven’t ever been to any other place than the US. Like so, so many things. I don’t get why you guys keep thinking you have to reinvent the wheel, when the rest of the world has solved the same issues decades ago.
You know speed cameras? Modern ones can detect a phone in a hand. And they only store images of that when they detected law-breaking behavior, so they are fine in terms of privacy.
Decades ago? What are you talking about? As far as I can tell distracted driving detection software is an extremely recent technological development that’s been adopted in a few countries in the past few years. The UK was first I think, in 2021. France and Germany only upgraded in the last year. I don’t need to be mocked for missing out on the latest and greatest in traffic enforcement technology, and I don’t appreciate being talked down to like I’m fucking stupid or the butt of a fucking joke.
Smartphone detection cameras are relatively recent and I pointed them out because they are the best solution that exists so far.
But laws against using your phone while driving, we had them already decades ago, and we had other solutions before the cameras. E.g. placing police next to the highway and letting them pull everyone out who uses their phone. We had that too decades ago. And that too works.
But it’s not only that. There are posts all the time about Americans being surprised that speed cameras exist, that red light cameras cameras exist, that speed limits are things that can actually be enforced and so on.
Today there was even a post about some road being restructured with sidewalks, pedestrian crossings and shrubbery, and that was seen as something revolutionary by all the americans in the thread, and not something that the rest of the world has been doing since the 50s and that’s already way outdated compared to what’s happening now.
The US is a total backwater country where everything that benefits regular people happens 50 years later.
Are you under the impression that the US doesn’t have laws against using your phone while driving?