Democratic governors that are letting ICE do whatever the fuck they want in their states need listen up.
Set the precedent NOW that ICE can’t do whatever they want in your state without intervention from local police and national guard or else you are going to lose every election from here on out.
If I was a governor, and I heard that ICE was on its way, I’d station Troopers at every border crossing into my state, and pull over every ICE vehicle that crosses. Record their IDs, photograph their faces, search their vehicles, etc., and hang them up for a while, and let them know they will not be having a good time in the state.
And let every hotel, restaurant, and business know that anyone who serves ICE will not be getting any future business from the state.
More than that, give tickets and fines to companies doing business or sharing intelligence with them.
Identifying the Ice members and publicizing the information is a great idea, preferably after making it a law for all officers to not wear masks or hide their identities and to identify themselves as they work and not go around like a group of cartel members.
The administration will call it doxxing, but it’s reasonable for police to show their faces and be accountable for their behavior, the only reason they are disguising it is to prevent them from being held accountable for their behavior. So an abuse that was committed cannot even be pinned on a team of officers as leadership of ICE obscures their identities.
It won’t be long before we get more private groups of criminals, cartels, to pretend like they are ICE to murder and kidnap, and people won’t know if they can defend themselves without getting murdered and then tarred as a terrorist, not knowing if it’s federal agents (breaking the law, which you have a legal right to defend from I don’t care what anyone says, it matters what a jury says and they would mostly agree, a badge does not give you the right to execute people without cause.)
The nation voted to deport illegals, it didn’t vote to turn Ice into an extrajudicial paramilitary force accountable only to the president with a 200 billion dollar budget. They didn’t vote to cancel the Bill of Rights, like the 4th amendment. They also didn’t vote to deport the accused to foreign concentration camp prisons for life, or deport them to the shittiest countries they had never been to, just out of mean spiritedness. We’ve enough money to give ICE more than any military in the world outside of ours and china’s, but not enough to honorably deal with illegal immigrants?
The administration wants to make precedents on this issue, they have the most support on it, to use later in stealing elections and crushing dissent. To nurture federal dickheads they can cherry pick for special units, and otherwise radicalize their federal agents and base with their Fox News bullshit and lies to fool their part of the population into not realizing they are trying to kill the republic and take what little working people have.
ICE uses lots of civilian vehicles. If you want a hard border that checks every vehicle, I don’t know if state troopers have the manpower to do that for an extended amount of time. This is also legally difficult territory. What should state troopers do if ICE doesn’t comply? Do you believe four troopers at a checkpoint will risk a shootout with a dozen armed ICE agents?
By this standard of letting Ice summarily execute state residents under false pretense and not charging them in state law, Ice could execute a Governor, a prosecutor, a mayor, under false pretense, and only answer to the feds.
This is a must, the State needs to file charges for Ms. Good and Mr. Pretti. This is non negotiable, and if prosecutors are too cowardly to do it they need to be immediately recalled and replaced with someone that will cover the citizens of the Great State of Minnesota with the Shield of American Law.
There is video evidence, there is no more information needed to make a charging decision, and the officers are identified. Not charging because of wanting more evidence is a cop out. An excuse not to charge.
I haven’t seen that the officers were identified in Prettis murder. I’d be nervous to charge a federal officer who will have federal defense attorneys on video evidence alone when the fed has everything else I need. But I’m not a lawyer. I was just saying they clearly would like to press charges from what I’ve seen. I think they will, but are trying to make sure they don’t get screwed in court first. They have open lawsuits to ensure evidence doesn’t get destroyed by the fed. Why would they do that with no intent to charge?
NYTimes identified them I believe, both hispanic names at that.
And if the state didn’t id them, they aren’t trying, don’t let them fool you. They have all the facial recognition, a lot of information systems at their disposal. The fact that they haven’t means that the state prosecutors are declining to do their duty and protect their own citizens from he government, a trait they were all chosen for in fact.
All government officials back each other up by default, democrat, republican. If a cop or prosecutor cheats you, they will cover for them if possible. By default. Anyone not realizing that has lived a sheltered life and may be in for some rude surprises this next decade.
This new dynamic where the local law enforcement aren’t on the same side as the federal law enforcement cheating their citizens must have these officials thrown for a loop. They are in the old boy club, they joined to beat up undesirables, not to defend people from those that can fight back. Time to resign in disgrace.
Democratic governors that are letting ICE do whatever the fuck they want in their states need listen up.
Set the precedent NOW that ICE can’t do whatever they want in your state without intervention from local police and national guard or else you are going to lose every election from here on out.
If I was a governor, and I heard that ICE was on its way, I’d station Troopers at every border crossing into my state, and pull over every ICE vehicle that crosses. Record their IDs, photograph their faces, search their vehicles, etc., and hang them up for a while, and let them know they will not be having a good time in the state.
And let every hotel, restaurant, and business know that anyone who serves ICE will not be getting any future business from the state.
More than that, give tickets and fines to companies doing business or sharing intelligence with them.
Identifying the Ice members and publicizing the information is a great idea, preferably after making it a law for all officers to not wear masks or hide their identities and to identify themselves as they work and not go around like a group of cartel members.
The administration will call it doxxing, but it’s reasonable for police to show their faces and be accountable for their behavior, the only reason they are disguising it is to prevent them from being held accountable for their behavior. So an abuse that was committed cannot even be pinned on a team of officers as leadership of ICE obscures their identities.
It won’t be long before we get more private groups of criminals, cartels, to pretend like they are ICE to murder and kidnap, and people won’t know if they can defend themselves without getting murdered and then tarred as a terrorist, not knowing if it’s federal agents (breaking the law, which you have a legal right to defend from I don’t care what anyone says, it matters what a jury says and they would mostly agree, a badge does not give you the right to execute people without cause.)
The nation voted to deport illegals, it didn’t vote to turn Ice into an extrajudicial paramilitary force accountable only to the president with a 200 billion dollar budget. They didn’t vote to cancel the Bill of Rights, like the 4th amendment. They also didn’t vote to deport the accused to foreign concentration camp prisons for life, or deport them to the shittiest countries they had never been to, just out of mean spiritedness. We’ve enough money to give ICE more than any military in the world outside of ours and china’s, but not enough to honorably deal with illegal immigrants?
The administration wants to make precedents on this issue, they have the most support on it, to use later in stealing elections and crushing dissent. To nurture federal dickheads they can cherry pick for special units, and otherwise radicalize their federal agents and base with their Fox News bullshit and lies to fool their part of the population into not realizing they are trying to kill the republic and take what little working people have.
ICE uses lots of civilian vehicles. If you want a hard border that checks every vehicle, I don’t know if state troopers have the manpower to do that for an extended amount of time. This is also legally difficult territory. What should state troopers do if ICE doesn’t comply? Do you believe four troopers at a checkpoint will risk a shootout with a dozen armed ICE agents?
Will ICE shoot state troopers? Then try to be effective in that state after that?
I say we have the confrontation, and see what happens. My guess is that the ICE Apes back down.
By this standard of letting Ice summarily execute state residents under false pretense and not charging them in state law, Ice could execute a Governor, a prosecutor, a mayor, under false pretense, and only answer to the feds.
This is a must, the State needs to file charges for Ms. Good and Mr. Pretti. This is non negotiable, and if prosecutors are too cowardly to do it they need to be immediately recalled and replaced with someone that will cover the citizens of the Great State of Minnesota with the Shield of American Law.
Isn’t it moreso that they can’t get access to the evidence they need to successfully charge people?
There is video evidence, there is no more information needed to make a charging decision, and the officers are identified. Not charging because of wanting more evidence is a cop out. An excuse not to charge.
I haven’t seen that the officers were identified in Prettis murder. I’d be nervous to charge a federal officer who will have federal defense attorneys on video evidence alone when the fed has everything else I need. But I’m not a lawyer. I was just saying they clearly would like to press charges from what I’ve seen. I think they will, but are trying to make sure they don’t get screwed in court first. They have open lawsuits to ensure evidence doesn’t get destroyed by the fed. Why would they do that with no intent to charge?
NYTimes identified them I believe, both hispanic names at that.
And if the state didn’t id them, they aren’t trying, don’t let them fool you. They have all the facial recognition, a lot of information systems at their disposal. The fact that they haven’t means that the state prosecutors are declining to do their duty and protect their own citizens from he government, a trait they were all chosen for in fact.
All government officials back each other up by default, democrat, republican. If a cop or prosecutor cheats you, they will cover for them if possible. By default. Anyone not realizing that has lived a sheltered life and may be in for some rude surprises this next decade.
This new dynamic where the local law enforcement aren’t on the same side as the federal law enforcement cheating their citizens must have these officials thrown for a loop. They are in the old boy club, they joined to beat up undesirables, not to defend people from those that can fight back. Time to resign in disgrace.
I suppose we’ll see, I just have a feeling the dust is still settling and cards are being held. But I may be naive, I have been before