• protist@mander.xyz
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    20 hours ago

    There are tens of thousands of people on the streets and in communities in Minnesota doing something about it

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            9 hours ago

            They’re only TALKING about it? If I recall, two innocent Minnesota citizens have been executed by ICE Apes while they were only “talking about it.” And all the rest of the Minnesota protesters who are just “talking about it,” all know they could be the next one to be executed, and yet they still show up to “talk about it” in protest.

            Take a hike, troll.

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              9 hours ago

              I think you’re misunderstanding me: how much more executions do you need to get the point across that “talking about it” no longer works?
              That the theater of protest as been breached?

              I can’t take a hike while people get deathcamped. How about instead of theatrics we demolish 1 down‽

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                8 hours ago

                And what would you have us do?

                There are legal steps still available to us by the Constitution, and we will follow those legal steps. The first is the Midterm elections in November, and the second is the Presidential Election in 2028. We will not surrender the last righteous Constitutional opportunities to follow an illegal strategy that is almost certain to fail, and will cause MAGA to lash back harshly.

                We will have the Midterm elections, and see what happens. It is likely they will molest that election before, during, and after, but we have to hang tight, and fight through it. Then in two years, we’ll do it again.

                Between those two elections, we will resolve this, one way or another. It may take legislation, protests, and even violence, but we won’t be the same when we come out the other side.

                But we have to take the proper steps, and impulsively attacking some well-armed camp, with no real agenda or objective, is stupid and self-destructive. That’s the way MAGAs think, only as far as the next step, with no concept of the reaction or consequences two or more steps down the road.

                This is the time for intelligent, strategic thinking, not running headlong into rifle fire.

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      20 hours ago

      I mean, it doesn’t seem to be getting “ice out” unless you could the 700 of 3000 they sent somewhere else.

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        18 hours ago

        It’s been more about getting in the face of each roaming ICE gang and getting them to leave without rounding up as many victims as they wanted to. If the Police and National Guard would protect the populace it would help but so far it’s just common individuals

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          17 hours ago

          The police and national guard protect the NATION, not the people. That was never part of their job.

          All government employees are bastards.

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            16 hours ago

            Then they’re failing because ICE and Trump and MAGA are destroying the NATION. They should be out there defending due process, the Bill of Rights and the rule of law, all of which ICE tramples in the mud.

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            15 hours ago

            They swear an oath to the constitution and what ice is doing is unconstitutional because it violates the fourth amendment and what they’re doing to protesters violates the first amendment.

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        20 hours ago

        Things in real life take longer than ticktock blurbs. It took years to fuck it this bad. It can’t be unfucked overnight.

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          19 hours ago

          It took one year to fuck it and by the time it gets unfucked we will all be dead of old age. So, you can keep believing there will be another election, but honey everything rational says otherwise.