The reason why I said you haven’t been paying attention, is because almost everything the Trump administration has been trying to do, keeps getting blocked by the court. And contrary to popular belief, that matters, even if the Trump administration isn’t following every ruling. Those count as crimes, and there will be a reckoning.
But that all goes into the pile of stuff we can’t “prevent”, because you can’t prevent them from committing crimes. You can hold them accountable for them, though…but unfortunately it’s after-the-fact, and the process takes time.
You may be right though, about the actual individuals who murdered Renee Good and Alex Pretti. They may get off. But I highly doubt Kristy Noem and Stephen Miller will. Or even Greg Bovino. The people responsible for the policies that led to those murders will be held accountable. But again, unfortunately it will be after-the-fact, and it will take time. And you are correct…it will take a change in leadership. Because you’re also right that the Trump administration won’t hold them accountable.
But none of that makes the system broken. It just means that Trump and most of his cabinet are guilty of breaking the law. And if we don’t all stand up and do something about it, then they will get away with it. The best and easiest way to make sure they are held accountable, is to show up for your midterm elections, and make sure Republicans lose their majorities in both Houses.
They may get off. But I highly doubt Kristy Noem and Stephen Miller will. Or even Greg Bovino. The people responsible for the policies that led to those murders will be held accountable.
Not sure if you’re doing a bit, but i’ll bite: Can you recall any historical examples of US public officials being held accountable for their obviously-criminal policy decisions? Eg, remind me who from the Bush administration went to prison due to the fact that they (as Obama put it) “tortured some folks”? And who from the Obama administration went to prison for any of their war crimes (eg)? What makes you think it will be different for people like Noem and Miller? 🤔
Yeah, it’s taken so long to prosecute the monstrous war criminals of the Bush Administration that they’re dying of old age. But it’s definitely going to happen though, right? There Will Be A Reckoning, after all?
But I highly doubt Kristy Noem and Stephen Miller will.
Looool.
. Or even Greg Bovino. The people responsible for the policies that led to those murders will be held accountable. But again, unfortunately it will be after-the-fact, and it will take time.
Even Charlie Brown would call you credulous.
The best and easiest way to make sure they are held accountable, is to show up for your midterm elections, and make sure Republicans lose their majorities in both Houses.
Lose to fucking who? The Democrats have never held Republicans accountable, not ever. I swear you people have literally Erased all memory of the fact that Trump was already in, he already lost the house, he already lost the presidency, and the Democrats did nothing to hold anyone accountable. In fact, they instead committed unforgivable crimes themselves. And they won’t be held accountable for that either
You said the high burden of proof needed to prove criminal guilt is what prevents Trump from arresting his political opponents, but it literally doesn’t do that. What it does, after they’re arrested, is give them a potential pathway to regaining their freedom. Kilmar Abrego Garcia comes to mind, his life was hell for most of last year fighting against his deportation to El Salvador. He’s walking free, for now, while he awaits even more bullshit trials. His ordeal hasn’t even ended yet.
Will Kristy Noem or Stephen Miller or Greg Bovino spend a day in jail for what they’ve done? Where’s the justice?
We don’t seem to have rights, we have a system of privileges that can be revoked if the wrong people get elected.
But you’re right, the system isn’t broken. It’s working exactly as it was intended.
You said the high burden of proof needed to prove criminal guilt is what prevents Trump from arresting his political opponents, but it literally doesn’t do that. What it does, after they’re arrested, is give them a potential pathway to regaining their freedom.
That’s more “moving the goalposts” than what I said. You’re intentionally missing my point by focusing so narrowly on my wording. The example I had in mind, was the 6 members of Congress that they just tried to arrest and charge with some form of treason, over that video they released reminding service members that they have the right to refuse illegal orders.
In the case of Abrego Garcia, that is actually another example of the system working…not the other way around. The Trump administration is trying as hard as possible to circumvent the law by denying his Constitutional right to due process, but so far, he has been able to not only fight back, but also to win.
We don’t seem to have rights, we have a system of privileges that can be revoked if the wrong people get elected.
That’s all that “rights” are. That’s literally the reason why it’s so important to put the right people in charge. If we let our guard down too often, or even just at the one wrong time…we risk losing everything. Our rights and freedoms are something that we have to fight to maintain every single time there’s an election. And not just when it’s the president. State and local elections are probably even more important.
If we let the wrong people take power, it isn’t because the system failed us…it’s because we failed to use the system the way it was intended.
You’re continuing to blame the working classes for not having power within a system designed to keep us from it. We need socialism, not to try to fix capitalism.
And what do you think “Socialism” is? Is it something external, that the working class has to find? Or is it working class solidarity? Something we already have, but aren’t using to its actual potential?
Working together is a choice. Who else is to blame for not making it, except us? All “the system” can do is try and convince us that we don’t have that power. But, as soon as we decide to work together, that power is ours.
Socialism is a mode of production, characterized by public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes in charge of the state. It isn’t something to be “found,” or something already present in capitalist society, it’s something to be realized by overthrowing the capitalist state and replacing it with a socialist one. Even if every single working-class individual agreed that socialism is necessary, you still need to organize, and you still need to overthrow capitalism.
The reason why I said you haven’t been paying attention, is because almost everything the Trump administration has been trying to do, keeps getting blocked by the court. And contrary to popular belief, that matters, even if the Trump administration isn’t following every ruling. Those count as crimes, and there will be a reckoning.
But that all goes into the pile of stuff we can’t “prevent”, because you can’t prevent them from committing crimes. You can hold them accountable for them, though…but unfortunately it’s after-the-fact, and the process takes time.
You may be right though, about the actual individuals who murdered Renee Good and Alex Pretti. They may get off. But I highly doubt Kristy Noem and Stephen Miller will. Or even Greg Bovino. The people responsible for the policies that led to those murders will be held accountable. But again, unfortunately it will be after-the-fact, and it will take time. And you are correct…it will take a change in leadership. Because you’re also right that the Trump administration won’t hold them accountable.
But none of that makes the system broken. It just means that Trump and most of his cabinet are guilty of breaking the law. And if we don’t all stand up and do something about it, then they will get away with it. The best and easiest way to make sure they are held accountable, is to show up for your midterm elections, and make sure Republicans lose their majorities in both Houses.
Not sure if you’re doing a bit, but i’ll bite: Can you recall any historical examples of US public officials being held accountable for their obviously-criminal policy decisions? Eg, remind me who from the Bush administration went to prison due to the fact that they (as Obama put it) “tortured some folks”? And who from the Obama administration went to prison for any of their war crimes (eg)? What makes you think it will be different for people like Noem and Miller? 🤔
Qanon. Shit.
Yeah, it’s taken so long to prosecute the monstrous war criminals of the Bush Administration that they’re dying of old age. But it’s definitely going to happen though, right? There Will Be A Reckoning, after all?
Looool.
Even Charlie Brown would call you credulous.
Lose to fucking who? The Democrats have never held Republicans accountable, not ever. I swear you people have literally Erased all memory of the fact that Trump was already in, he already lost the house, he already lost the presidency, and the Democrats did nothing to hold anyone accountable. In fact, they instead committed unforgivable crimes themselves. And they won’t be held accountable for that either
But you’re moving the goal posts.
You said the high burden of proof needed to prove criminal guilt is what prevents Trump from arresting his political opponents, but it literally doesn’t do that. What it does, after they’re arrested, is give them a potential pathway to regaining their freedom. Kilmar Abrego Garcia comes to mind, his life was hell for most of last year fighting against his deportation to El Salvador. He’s walking free, for now, while he awaits even more bullshit trials. His ordeal hasn’t even ended yet.
Will Kristy Noem or Stephen Miller or Greg Bovino spend a day in jail for what they’ve done? Where’s the justice?
We don’t seem to have rights, we have a system of privileges that can be revoked if the wrong people get elected.
But you’re right, the system isn’t broken. It’s working exactly as it was intended.
That’s more “moving the goalposts” than what I said. You’re intentionally missing my point by focusing so narrowly on my wording. The example I had in mind, was the 6 members of Congress that they just tried to arrest and charge with some form of treason, over that video they released reminding service members that they have the right to refuse illegal orders.
In the case of Abrego Garcia, that is actually another example of the system working…not the other way around. The Trump administration is trying as hard as possible to circumvent the law by denying his Constitutional right to due process, but so far, he has been able to not only fight back, but also to win.
That’s all that “rights” are. That’s literally the reason why it’s so important to put the right people in charge. If we let our guard down too often, or even just at the one wrong time…we risk losing everything. Our rights and freedoms are something that we have to fight to maintain every single time there’s an election. And not just when it’s the president. State and local elections are probably even more important.
If we let the wrong people take power, it isn’t because the system failed us…it’s because we failed to use the system the way it was intended.
Take this BlueMAGA nonsense back to Reddit. Neither party gives a shit about our rights and freedoms
You’re continuing to blame the working classes for not having power within a system designed to keep us from it. We need socialism, not to try to fix capitalism.
And what do you think “Socialism” is? Is it something external, that the working class has to find? Or is it working class solidarity? Something we already have, but aren’t using to its actual potential?
Working together is a choice. Who else is to blame for not making it, except us? All “the system” can do is try and convince us that we don’t have that power. But, as soon as we decide to work together, that power is ours.
Socialism is a mode of production, characterized by public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes in charge of the state. It isn’t something to be “found,” or something already present in capitalist society, it’s something to be realized by overthrowing the capitalist state and replacing it with a socialist one. Even if every single working-class individual agreed that socialism is necessary, you still need to organize, and you still need to overthrow capitalism.