i will honestly be surprised if it happens this far out from the midterms. i was thinking shit hits the fan maybe a month or two at most before voting day, so fascists can pep rally their braindead supporters into a “we are victorious, therefore the best party” bullshit narrative
i could be wrong. it doesn’t matter. trump was always going to invade iran, regardless of how fucking dumb that always was
People didn’t even show up for their own human rights, they won’t show up because of Iran. Trump will just bomb them to hell and leave it a mess, so no boots on the ground imagery.
He’s going to try the same thing as Venezuala, put in some sort of goverment that answers to him. It will be harder though.
He’s all about imagery. He knows boots on the ground getting blown up is bad imagery, so he’ll leave it to who the fuck knows to sort out the mess. Apparently the son of the Shah lives in the US.
They may genuinely think that electoral politics won’t impact them, or that they have it compromised enough or that enough people will actually support them.
They’ve been overreaching from the start and they’re going to reap the consequences. A lot of people on the right and left alike right now are waving their hands at electoralism broadly thinking it doesn’t do anything, when it’s why we’re here at all so there is a large amount of ignorance spread through the country. This could be good news for our elections, it could be terrible news for our world broadly as these chucklefucks start wars and trample over the world.
Truthfully I think a new war now would destroy them
why do you think that? tell the public that X is a threat to america, so therefore we need to invade/obliterate X-- done, mission accomplished. see: bush 2
If they let midterms happen
this is key. trump will put pressure on state governors and state boards of elections to throw away all the D votes, because that’s what he fucking does. and even if that fails, it seems to me that he gets whatever the fuck he wants anyway.
so again: doesn’t matter. i hope you don’t have kids
why do you think that? tell the public that X is a threat to america, so therefore we need to invade/obliterate X-- done, mission accomplished. see: bush 2
You are forgetting 2 very big reasons why Bush was able to start that war
Sure, but let me get ahead of what you’re going to say. 9/11 provided the justification. As of right now, we have not had another 9/11 like event to justify invading another country. Citing a vague threat used to work immediately after 9/11, but that faded after about a decade. All you have to do is look at public opinion of the war in Afghanistan. The vague "threats’ of danger stopped working.
Of course as with all horrible things about 30% of the dumbest demographic will support it no matter what.
no offense, but you can’t be serious… the fascism we’re living in right now is NOTHING BUT “vague threats”-- the brown people, the gays, the trans, the “woke”-- they’re all coming to eat your children. and apparently that’s all that’s needed at this point, because, for one thing, we’re watching the shit happen
we are not living in 2001. we’re in fascist america 2026, where people take the words of the party (covid is a hoax) over the words of actual doctors (get a vaccine).
event to justify invading another country
please don’t try to tell me that this nazi fascist authoritarian police state “government” won’t do something without “justification”
you are still sitting there thinking that any molecule of trump’s government feels like they need your approval to do whatever tf they want. can i tell you something? THEY DON’T
no offense, but you can’t be serious… the fascism we’re living in right now is NOTHING BUT “vague threats”-- the brown people, the gays, the trans, the “woke”-- they’re all coming to eat your children. and apparently that’s all that’s needed at this point, because, for one thing, we’re watching the shit happen
This isn’t the wrong conclusion. I’d say about 30% of people believe that fully. 30% is enough to swing a primary when those 30% make up the majority of the Republican cacus.
Then you have another 15% of the population unwilling to switch parties, vague reasons on culture war issues or “fiscal conservatism”.
The final 10% votes on shallow issues. Things like Biden being perceived as old, the economy doing poorly, abortion, or whatever they saw on Facebook last week.
please don’t try to tell me that this nazi fascist authoritarian police state “government” won’t do something without “justification”
I did not say that, I just don’t think it would be recieved favorably.
you are still sitting there thinking that any molecule of trump’s government feels like they need your approval to do whatever tf they want. can i tell you something? THEY DON’T
Neat, I also didn’t say that. I undertake that even pre-Trump the US president could invade any country any time they wanted. They had the authority under law to do so.
What I did say was that if elections happen then a random foreign war would not be favorable for the majority party to retain their seats.
You’ve crafted a very passioned response, but I think you’re saying it to the wrong people. Like I agree with most of what you’re saying, it just doesn’t fit the conversation of the effect a foreign war would have on elections.
I’m well aware the current government is fascist and will do fascist things.
Loyal tribal members, they aren’t neccessarily dumb, though many are, they trust their tribe knows what they are doing. You can call that dumb, but how many people trust the democrats to know what they are doing? How many trusted kamala being anointed without a contest?
We all trust the wrong people, they just trust the worst people.
Not really doomerism when we literally had the DHS secretary on mic in public say “we’re going to have ICE making sure the right people vote for the right leaders”.
When the enemy tells you their plan, believe them the first time.
They cut and ran in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and that was when the U.S. was a global hegemon at its absolute peak. No way they can regime change a country that is more populous and developed than both neighbors put together.
Especially not after they have spend the last 9 years destroying their international power structures.
I mean, sure, they kan kill a few hundred thousand people, declare victory and fuck off, but they can’t do much to actually change anything for the better long term.
Not a fucking chance that happens. We could assassinate a string of their leaders, they won’t let a puppet take over, not a fucking chance. If anything hardliners will get in after they kill their leaders, which is what Israel wants, to keep the war going, for cause to come back and hit them again and again after peace is remade, for years. It’s a forever war Israel is buying with their blackmail so they don’t have to face their domestic failures in the ghetto uprising, and elections.
You do realize most of that is a concerted effort to drum up support, that the protests aren’t nearly as widespread as they would have you believe, and that this is 101 for manipulating people into war?
Idk, it will spike gas prices presumably, one thinks Iran would shut down the straits of hormuz this time, I can’t believe they didn’t last time though so what do I know. But it will supercharge inflation, and gas prices, 25% of oil moves through there.
Plus once a ship gets blown up, insurance pulls their coverage, and those tankers are worth like a hundred million or more, they won’t risk them in a war zone without insurance.
One would think between mines, and missiles they could have dug in and pull out and shoot off then disappear, that they could shut down the straits, and that maybe last time they were holding back to wait it out and not escalating. Which was a mistake as it guarenteed Israel would want to get some more cost free hits in.
But close to the election the hyper inflation could hurt, now they’ve plenty of time to calm it down, assuming they can keep Israel on a leash enough to keep the gulf ships going through after.
There are certain things people can reasonably criticize the US military as being bad at, but I don’t think anyone can credibly claim it isn’t excellent at achieving air superiority. I mean, maybe it could turn out that the Navy is “fighting the last war” and unprepared for drones, but I don’t think that’s likely. Especially not against Iran (China I might give more credit to, what with their hypersonic missiles and all).
I am not saying Iran would beat the US navy, just that it should be able to threaten cargo ships enough to shut down the strait of hormuz and thereabouts. Between mines, floating things that explode when something hits them, sometimes set to intermediate depths. That could be dropped by drones or missiles. To missiles and drones themselves, they should be able to shut down the trade, once there is a credible threat insurance should pull their coverage even if the navy is escorting them.
That is their only real card to play here. Well besides for taking out Saudi oil facilities, which is not a bad idea at all. No matter what the saudis say now that Iran showed they can hit them, the Saudis were the biggest proponents of war with Iran back in the president’s first term. They deserve it, and they are more vulnerable, as the US doesn’t protect them so much.
Besides for that, yeah maybe big maybe they could take out a ship, if they got lucky and overwhelmed their defenses?
I would expect countering that sort of thing because The Spice Oil Must Flow to be the Navy’s first priority (aside from defending itself, obviously). But then again I’m not a military strategist, so what do I know?
War is coming tomorrow.
Edit: again, I would like to add that this is wild speculation.
I just looked up the original tweet. It was sent out on Friday. (20 Feb 2026)
The Pentagon Pizza index shows a weeklong 160% spike in afternoon activity at the Papa Johns 2.3 miles from the Pentagon.
The 5 closer pizza places are currently showing a bit busy, but nothing outside of the ordinary.
i will honestly be surprised if it happens this far out from the midterms. i was thinking shit hits the fan maybe a month or two at most before voting day, so fascists can pep rally their braindead supporters into a “we are victorious, therefore the best party” bullshit narrative
i could be wrong. it doesn’t matter. trump was always going to invade iran, regardless of how fucking dumb that always was
Truthfully I think a new war now would destroy them. If they let midterms happen
People didn’t even show up for their own human rights, they won’t show up because of Iran. Trump will just bomb them to hell and leave it a mess, so no boots on the ground imagery.
Oh yeah if he didn’t put any boots on the ground that’s different. The American people have a record of being just fine boning anywhere and anything
He’s going to try the same thing as Venezuala, put in some sort of goverment that answers to him. It will be harder though.
He’s all about imagery. He knows boots on the ground getting blown up is bad imagery, so he’ll leave it to who the fuck knows to sort out the mess. Apparently the son of the Shah lives in the US.
They may genuinely think that electoral politics won’t impact them, or that they have it compromised enough or that enough people will actually support them.
They’ve been overreaching from the start and they’re going to reap the consequences. A lot of people on the right and left alike right now are waving their hands at electoralism broadly thinking it doesn’t do anything, when it’s why we’re here at all so there is a large amount of ignorance spread through the country. This could be good news for our elections, it could be terrible news for our world broadly as these chucklefucks start wars and trample over the world.
why do you think that? tell the public that X is a threat to america, so therefore we need to invade/obliterate X-- done, mission accomplished. see: bush 2
this is key. trump will put pressure on state governors and state boards of elections to throw away all the D votes, because that’s what he fucking does. and even if that fails, it seems to me that he gets whatever the fuck he wants anyway.
so again: doesn’t matter. i hope you don’t have kids
You are forgetting 2 very big reasons why Bush was able to start that war
i have a feeling you’re about to support my point, so please–enlighten me
I believe it’s a 9/11 reference, with the “two very big reasons” alluding to the Twin Towers.
Sure, but let me get ahead of what you’re going to say. 9/11 provided the justification. As of right now, we have not had another 9/11 like event to justify invading another country. Citing a vague threat used to work immediately after 9/11, but that faded after about a decade. All you have to do is look at public opinion of the war in Afghanistan. The vague "threats’ of danger stopped working.
Of course as with all horrible things about 30% of the dumbest demographic will support it no matter what.
no offense, but you can’t be serious… the fascism we’re living in right now is NOTHING BUT “vague threats”-- the brown people, the gays, the trans, the “woke”-- they’re all coming to eat your children. and apparently that’s all that’s needed at this point, because, for one thing, we’re watching the shit happen
we are not living in 2001. we’re in fascist america 2026, where people take the words of the party (covid is a hoax) over the words of actual doctors (get a vaccine).
please don’t try to tell me that this nazi fascist authoritarian police state “government” won’t do something without “justification”
you are still sitting there thinking that any molecule of trump’s government feels like they need your approval to do whatever tf they want. can i tell you something? THEY DON’T
This isn’t the wrong conclusion. I’d say about 30% of people believe that fully. 30% is enough to swing a primary when those 30% make up the majority of the Republican cacus.
Then you have another 15% of the population unwilling to switch parties, vague reasons on culture war issues or “fiscal conservatism”.
The final 10% votes on shallow issues. Things like Biden being perceived as old, the economy doing poorly, abortion, or whatever they saw on Facebook last week.
I did not say that, I just don’t think it would be recieved favorably.
Neat, I also didn’t say that. I undertake that even pre-Trump the US president could invade any country any time they wanted. They had the authority under law to do so.
What I did say was that if elections happen then a random foreign war would not be favorable for the majority party to retain their seats.
You’ve crafted a very passioned response, but I think you’re saying it to the wrong people. Like I agree with most of what you’re saying, it just doesn’t fit the conversation of the effect a foreign war would have on elections.
I’m well aware the current government is fascist and will do fascist things.
Loyal tribal members, they aren’t neccessarily dumb, though many are, they trust their tribe knows what they are doing. You can call that dumb, but how many people trust the democrats to know what they are doing? How many trusted kamala being anointed without a contest?
We all trust the wrong people, they just trust the worst people.
Doomerism. Ignore and move on.
Not really doomerism when we literally had the DHS secretary on mic in public say “we’re going to have ICE making sure the right people vote for the right leaders”.
When the enemy tells you their plan, believe them the first time.
Right now is when the situation in Iran is ripe though with their protests.
Ripe for what?
removal of the regime to be replaced with a usa puppet
They cut and ran in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and that was when the U.S. was a global hegemon at its absolute peak. No way they can regime change a country that is more populous and developed than both neighbors put together.
Especially not after they have spend the last 9 years destroying their international power structures.
I mean, sure, they kan kill a few hundred thousand people, declare victory and fuck off, but they can’t do much to actually change anything for the better long term.
Not a fucking chance that happens. We could assassinate a string of their leaders, they won’t let a puppet take over, not a fucking chance. If anything hardliners will get in after they kill their leaders, which is what Israel wants, to keep the war going, for cause to come back and hit them again and again after peace is remade, for years. It’s a forever war Israel is buying with their blackmail so they don’t have to face their domestic failures in the ghetto uprising, and elections.
You do realize most of that is a concerted effort to drum up support, that the protests aren’t nearly as widespread as they would have you believe, and that this is 101 for manipulating people into war?
Idk, it will spike gas prices presumably, one thinks Iran would shut down the straits of hormuz this time, I can’t believe they didn’t last time though so what do I know. But it will supercharge inflation, and gas prices, 25% of oil moves through there.
Plus once a ship gets blown up, insurance pulls their coverage, and those tankers are worth like a hundred million or more, they won’t risk them in a war zone without insurance.
One would think between mines, and missiles they could have dug in and pull out and shoot off then disappear, that they could shut down the straits, and that maybe last time they were holding back to wait it out and not escalating. Which was a mistake as it guarenteed Israel would want to get some more cost free hits in.
But close to the election the hyper inflation could hurt, now they’ve plenty of time to calm it down, assuming they can keep Israel on a leash enough to keep the gulf ships going through after.
You think Iran could control the Strait of Hormuz against two US carrier strike groups?
The US navy can’t secure the Bab-el-Mandeb strait against less well equipped yemani rebels
I think they could with mines, and missiles, and drones, be able to hit oil tankers well enough to shut down the straits of hormuz.
You don’t think so? I thought they were going to do it last time and they didn’t, so maybe I was mistaken.
There are certain things people can reasonably criticize the US military as being bad at, but I don’t think anyone can credibly claim it isn’t excellent at achieving air superiority. I mean, maybe it could turn out that the Navy is “fighting the last war” and unprepared for drones, but I don’t think that’s likely. Especially not against Iran (China I might give more credit to, what with their hypersonic missiles and all).
Iran prefers to go after ships with torpedo boats. Not the US Navy’s strongest defence.
I am not saying Iran would beat the US navy, just that it should be able to threaten cargo ships enough to shut down the strait of hormuz and thereabouts. Between mines, floating things that explode when something hits them, sometimes set to intermediate depths. That could be dropped by drones or missiles. To missiles and drones themselves, they should be able to shut down the trade, once there is a credible threat insurance should pull their coverage even if the navy is escorting them.
That is their only real card to play here. Well besides for taking out Saudi oil facilities, which is not a bad idea at all. No matter what the saudis say now that Iran showed they can hit them, the Saudis were the biggest proponents of war with Iran back in the president’s first term. They deserve it, and they are more vulnerable, as the US doesn’t protect them so much.
Besides for that, yeah maybe big maybe they could take out a ship, if they got lucky and overwhelmed their defenses?
I would expect countering that sort of thing because The
SpiceOil Must Flow to be the Navy’s first priority (aside from defending itself, obviously). But then again I’m not a military strategist, so what do I know?