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    Traffic between congress and aipac hq is heavy… full of congresspeople at all hours day and night. We get it. But the vote was important and the timing of the vote was known several days in advance.

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    Yeah…this right here, this is why I am not getting my hopes up. The Democrats don’t view themselves as a force of history.

    They don’t aspire to be the political leaders who will fight corruption, wrestle back control from oligarchs, or provide equality and prosperity to the people. They view themselves as managers.

    A committee here, a senate hearing there… ‘What’s that? Trump accepted a bribe from the Russians? I’ll be sure to write a strongly worded letter!’

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    When you have one job and you fail to do it on the most important times, you get removed from that job.

    Remove them all, no excuses. They have a super cushy job, amazing pay and benefits and they can’t even show up on the most important days.

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    They are still pushing this? We already know it’s not true. At least one person that skipped the vote was actually there according to witnesses (and I think video). The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event. We still have more work to do in 2028 to get rid of the rest of these Israeli shills.

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      The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event.

      If true, then we must also consider who called the vote at such a stupid time.

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        The Speaker of the House called the vote. Actual leadership would have expected this dirty trick, especially when the GOP has done the exact same thing several times before.

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        yes, why cant our entire government operate at a time that accomodates aipac events. I mean, listen to yourself.

        The vote was scheduled in advance. If congresspeople wanted to be there they would have been. Stop trying to pretend this was a scheduling issue instead of a corruption one.

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          Oh, I’m in agreement. It’s absolutely a corruption issue. I’m saying that the dems in question are absolutely complicit, but so is the current house speaker for being a righteous dick for calling the vote in a manner that reeks of collusion.

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    There is literally a metro line from Reagan and Dulles to capitol hill, unless the train was on fire (again) or doing barrel rolls on the tracks (again), there is no excuse. Name and shame.

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      How nice of them to put themselves on the list of people for serious Americans to vote against next election so early in the cycle. I thought it would take a few months for them to make themselves this known.

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    You know they’re fucking overpaid and underworked when all they do is show up for 15 minutes to vote and then leave. Every single member of Congress should be in that building from 8-5 every fucking weekday, 52 weeks a year.

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      You do know that they have responsiblities outside of DC in their home states? As well as committee responsiblities. Your comment identifies your ignorance of how the US government works.

      What really needs to happen is a reform in how congress votes that allows them to vote remotely. This will also allow the House to expand and provide proportional representation, and would nearly eliminate the ability to gerrymander a district.

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        i mean obviously the machinery of how the us government works is his direct complaint, and his call to action involves changing said “how things work” because obviously they are not working. they do not read the bills they vote for, they vote how they are told, they are not held to account for not being there for votes obviously, they spend ungodly amounts of time calling rich doners to beg for money for votes. using privileged information for insider trading. and so forth

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        I’m talking in hyperbole. Obviously they have committees. And sure they need to be in their home state for town halls and constituent meetings, but the vast majority of their time should be spent on the floor of the Congress. They should be reading and debating bills, not just popping in for a quick vote.

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      On its face, this seems like a dirty trick by Republicans. Mike Johnson called a recess, then after members left, called a snap vote on whether to proceed with impeachment with no warning. This entire spectacle reeks of a planned Republican scheme to try to influence the outcome through procedure and sow division within the Democratic party. The Republican House caucus was obviously made aware this was happening so they would stick around.

      That any House Speaker can call a snap vote like this is a serious problem for our democracy.

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        But you have to be smart enough to know that’s a possibility. That’s a trick that they’ve used before and has been used before for decades. A good leader, someone good at whipping votes, has to be aware of these tricks and has to be ready for them. A good leader would be able to keep his people ready for this kind of trick. There was only a small window they could have pulled it in.

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          And I’m sure if some random person on Lemmy could figure it out, the people who’ve actually worked in the job for years or decades would have figured it out too. This is just whitewashing the Democrats culpability in aiding the Republican agenda yet again.

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        I can’t leave my job when I don’t feel like being at work.

        These assholes need to sit down and do their fucking jobs any time congress is in session.

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          It’s okay to play idiotic games like this to elicit idiotic responses like yours?

          If you’re at work and the manager says there’s a break, so you decide to take an early lunch because the break is long enough, only to find the manager waited until team members left before changing his mind so he could reprimand you for not being at work… you’d be like “oh my bad”?!

          Get a clue. I am no fan of politicians but this kind of immature game has no place in society.

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      So, the israelis threw a party way the fuck in nowhere right before a critical vote, and there just happened to be a huge traffic jam blocking their only path back to vote?

      So, throw a party then crash a truck to continue their war of genocide uninterrupted. It’s what their fictional gawd told them to do. Everything is justified by a fictional being that lives in their religious psychopathy.

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    You know what I do when I’m expected at an important anything? Such as a meeting, or going to the airport. A funeral, maybe.
    I LEAVE FUCKING EARLY.

    Now if I was just going to the pub etc then it doesn’t really matter if I’m a little bit late. So, FUCK YOU, traitors.

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        It depends. Appointment at the doctor’s etc, then I’d aim to be there 30ish minutes before. A job interview? About 60 minutes.
        A vote to impeach a dictators lackey…? About 6 hours early, just to make sure!!

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        20% plus 5 minutes. 30% plus 5 during rush hour.

        Travel is 30 minutes? 10 minutes early, 15 with traffic.

        Travel is 10 minutes and there’s no traffic? 5 minutes early.

        It’s an hour long drive but it’s rush hour?

        Leave 25 minutes earlier than you would have.

        Longer than that? Bitch why are you driving that far on such a tight timetable???

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    I am once again reminding you of the power of being armed and organized. That we can make them do their jobs again if they are sufficiently afraid of the populace.

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      Do you think the George Floyd protests would have gone better if everyone there had guns

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          Given recent examples of how the government responds to protesters, I do not believe individuals threatening violence can convince congress to do anything other than violently crack down on individuals threatening violence.

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            Cool. So your political morality is just one in which the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.

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                Lol, wuss. Not surprised you deleted your comment, you don’t have any guts to stand by your beliefs or convictions, or even your “witty” one liners.

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                  So you’re saying people shouldn’t retract statements that get downvoted? Ok

                  I’ll say it again then. Call me when you’re ready to do a blue January 6th lol

                  Also you’re getting mad at me for being the victim of coercion, and pretending that coercion is not a valid motivator to do things. If someone is gonna kill me, of course I’m gonna do what they say

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            Considering how our government responds to citizens in general, including depriving them of the Right to Due Process, the underpinning of the social contract between the populace and the state. I honestly don’t see much of a difference except in one scenario you’re empowered with a group to fight back and the other you’re being impregnated or killed inside one of the Concentration Camps.

            Do you believe it’s better to just roll over and do nothing?

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    If I am absent for a meeting at work I get at least asked why, and would suffer consequences if the reasons are not valid.

    I am by no means an essential worker or a lawmaker…

    How the fuck do politicians dont get fired by these kind of things?