Y’all have ONE job. One. One fucking job to do. You show up and run the government.
One…Fucking…Job.
Traffic between congress and aipac hq is heavy… full of congresspeople at all hours day and night. We get it. But the vote was important and the timing of the vote was known several days in advance.
i thought you were just being facetious… but they were literally attending an aipac front group meeting https://newrepublic.com/post/217861/full-list-11-democrats-missed-hegseth-impeachment-vote-where-they-were-instead
Relevant supplement to this
Lawmakers Report That Some Democrats Missed Hegseth Impeachment Vote to Attend Event for ‘AIPAC Front Group’
How nice of them to put themselves on the list of people for serious Americans to vote against next election so early in the cycle. I thought it would take a few months for them to make themselves this known.
Oh what a joyful coincidence.
Yeah…this right here, this is why I am not getting my hopes up. The Democrats don’t view themselves as a force of history.
They don’t aspire to be the political leaders who will fight corruption, wrestle back control from oligarchs, or provide equality and prosperity to the people. They view themselves as managers.
A committee here, a senate hearing there… ‘What’s that? Trump accepted a bribe from the Russians? I’ll be sure to write a strongly worded letter!’
I fully agree. We need politicians with passion
I’d be willing to start with ones with a pulse.
The traffic:
On its face, this seems like a dirty trick by Republicans. Mike Johnson called a recess, then after members left, called a snap vote on whether to proceed with impeachment with no warning. This entire spectacle reeks of a planned Republican scheme to try to influence the outcome through procedure and sow division within the Democratic party. The Republican House caucus was obviously made aware this was happening so they would stick around.
That any House Speaker can call a snap vote like this is a serious problem for our democracy.
But you have to be smart enough to know that’s a possibility. That’s a trick that they’ve used before and has been used before for decades. A good leader, someone good at whipping votes, has to be aware of these tricks and has to be ready for them. A good leader would be able to keep his people ready for this kind of trick. There was only a small window they could have pulled it in.
And I’m sure if some random person on Lemmy could figure it out, the people who’ve actually worked in the job for years or decades would have figured it out too. This is just whitewashing the Democrats culpability in aiding the Republican agenda yet again.
So its ok for people to not do their jobs?
It’s okay to play idiotic games like this to elicit idiotic responses like yours?
If you’re at work and the manager says there’s a break, so you decide to take an early lunch because the break is long enough, only to find the manager waited until team members left before changing his mind so he could reprimand you for not being at work… you’d be like “oh my bad”?!
Get a clue. I am no fan of politicians but this kind of immature game has no place in society.
I can’t leave my job when I don’t feel like being at work.
These assholes need to sit down and do their fucking jobs any time congress is in session.
You don’t leave your job when you have a break?
So, the israelis threw a party way the fuck in nowhere right before a critical vote, and there just happened to be a huge traffic jam blocking their only path back to vote?
So, throw a party then crash a truck to continue their war of genocide uninterrupted. It’s what their fictional gawd told them to do. Everything is justified by a fictional being that lives in their religious psychopathy.
its thier "remind that have to vote for us party, or we wont give you money " event.
They are still pushing this? We already know it’s not true. At least one person that skipped the vote was actually there according to witnesses (and I think video). The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event. We still have more work to do in 2028 to get rid of the rest of these Israeli shills.
The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event.
If true, then we must also consider who called the vote at such a stupid time.
The Speaker of the House called the vote. Actual leadership would have expected this dirty trick, especially when the GOP has done the exact same thing several times before.
yes, why cant our entire government operate at a time that accomodates aipac events. I mean, listen to yourself.
The vote was scheduled in advance. If congresspeople wanted to be there they would have been. Stop trying to pretend this was a scheduling issue instead of a corruption one.
Oh, I’m in agreement. It’s absolutely a corruption issue. I’m saying that the dems in question are absolutely complicit, but so is the current house speaker for being a righteous dick for calling the vote in a manner that reeks of collusion.
100%
Tbf that was republicans, they do still control the house til January.
When you have one job and you fail to do it on the most important times, you get removed from that job.
Remove them all, no excuses. They have a super cushy job, amazing pay and benefits and they can’t even show up on the most important days.
Lmao that’s not acceptable at any job site :D
Can we just start eating people
Easy to spatchcock when they’ve got no spine
👨🍳🤌🫴
These people are rotten through and through. We’d be better off composting them
We are all compost in training, but them first.
You know what I do when I’m expected at an important anything? Such as a meeting, or going to the airport. A funeral, maybe.
I LEAVE FUCKING EARLY.Now if I was just going to the pub etc then it doesn’t really matter if I’m a little bit late. So, FUCK YOU, traitors.
How early? 30 minutes? 5 hrs? 2 days?
It depends. Appointment at the doctor’s etc, then I’d aim to be there 30ish minutes before. A job interview? About 60 minutes.
A vote to impeach a dictators lackey…? About 6 hours early, just to make sure!!20% plus 5 minutes. 30% plus 5 during rush hour.
Travel is 30 minutes? 10 minutes early, 15 with traffic.
Travel is 10 minutes and there’s no traffic? 5 minutes early.
It’s an hour long drive but it’s rush hour?
Leave 25 minutes earlier than you would have.
Longer than that? Bitch why are you driving that far on such a tight timetable???
Yeah I could leave a day early if im impeaching a war criminal.
There is literally a metro line from Reagan and Dulles to capitol hill, unless the train was on fire (again) or doing barrel rolls on the tracks (again), there is no excuse. Name and shame.
You know they’re fucking overpaid and underworked when all they do is show up for 15 minutes to vote and then leave. Every single member of Congress should be in that building from 8-5 every fucking weekday, 52 weeks a year.
You do know that they have responsiblities outside of DC in their home states? As well as committee responsiblities. Your comment identifies your ignorance of how the US government works.
What really needs to happen is a reform in how congress votes that allows them to vote remotely. This will also allow the House to expand and provide proportional representation, and would nearly eliminate the ability to gerrymander a district.
I’m talking in hyperbole. Obviously they have committees. And sure they need to be in their home state for town halls and constituent meetings, but the vast majority of their time should be spent on the floor of the Congress. They should be reading and debating bills, not just popping in for a quick vote.
i mean obviously the machinery of how the us government works is his direct complaint, and his call to action involves changing said “how things work” because obviously they are not working. they do not read the bills they vote for, they vote how they are told, they are not held to account for not being there for votes obviously, they spend ungodly amounts of time calling rich doners to beg for money for votes. using privileged information for insider trading. and so forth
If I am absent for a meeting at work I get at least asked why, and would suffer consequences if the reasons are not valid.
I am by no means an essential worker or a lawmaker…
How the fuck do politicians dont get fired by these kind of things?
because it takes 2 years to fire a Representative.
Were any of the House republicans also caught in that traffic jam?
7 Republicans missed the vote but don’t know why.
Why? Probably dead and playing weekend at bernies with the bodies.
insert Mitch McConnell pic here
They were present just not needed. They voted in the next thing 20 mins later.
If Dems somehow was there those 7 would have voted.
It wasn’t an impeachment vote. It was a vote to send it to committee which is what the Republicans wanted to delay. The vote was moved up and closed early by Johnson. In all honesty, any impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate and Dems would control the approval of the nomination.
Why is a vote allowed to go through it representatives are stuck in traffic
Because Johnson. He was aware people were en route and closed the vote.
Its also misleading, its “some of the 11”. Pelosi was in CA for a veterans day event, another was going in for a medical procedure, another had an unrelated (and unspecified) personal emergency, like 4 said they were stuck in traffic (motorcade blocking traffic), and I think it was 2 at the AIPAC event.
Not excusing anything here BTW, just pointing out the title is kinda shitty.
The vote didn’t actually matter, so I imagine a lot of reps didn’t really prioritize it
They jnderstand it’s just political theater, even if the general piblic somehow does not. It always was 100% guaranteed it would not end in a conviction
I would disagree. The vote mattered because the public doesn’t understand it. Just because its a referral to the Judiciary Committee doesn’t really matter here, what mattered was the perception.
Just look through a lot of this thread.
I mean, everyone not being in attendance can’t automatically delay votes, or anyone could unilaterally block a vote by just not showing up. However, I think we all know why the vote was moved up and closed early - it’s specifically because they were stuck in traffic.
They shouldn’t have needed to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years… How is it still allowed to be an excuse.
Alternatively
Having been required to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years is probably a good reason to be at the location
They wouldn’t have called the vote if they were at the location.
West Wing did an episode prominently featuring this kind of bullshit.
Yeah agree, this has happened in my country too - I think they could have been more aware of the risk, especially at the moment.
I know how is OK for these people to not do their jobs.
impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate
No, it won’t. It would require 11 Republican senators to reach the required 2/3rds super majority
I’m actually not sure it will pass the senate even after we get 54 DNC Senators in because I’m pretty sure it’s still 60 to remove even though it was 50 + VP to confirm? It’s a little confusing.
It needs a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict in the senate, so yes, it seems very unlikely to go through.
2/3 of all senators present. So if there is traffic and a few Republicans miss the vote, that’s just too bad.
It’s a 2/3rds super majority require for an impeachment conviction to remove him from office
It never had any chance of passing, which every member of congress knew
It’s 2/3 of members present, so 67 if all senators show up.
