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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid

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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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In his starkest warning yet, President Zelenskyy said that "Ukraine will lose the war" to Russia if Congress does not act to send it more aid.
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    People in this thread clearly don’t understand what the implications are. There is a very clear danger of war on the European continent that will involve NATO and by proxy the US. Aid for Ukraine is the absolute cheapest option. Europe is not going to just let Ukraine fall and will ramp up their involvement. We already have France willing to send troops.

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      Ok genocidaire

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      You don’t understand that the only danger of further war is again from US/NATO. Europe is going to let Ukraine fall because it has no choice. France is a laughing stock. Even what they threatened to send could do nothing.

      In the case of shells, the problem isn’t money, it’s lack of production capacity. Even the mighty USA, owner of the largest military-industrial complex in the world, can only produce 28,000 rounds of 155mm per month – less than 10pc of what Ukraine needs – and this with its factories on 24-hour operation.

      Comment from the Torygrapgh readership:

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        @LarkinDePark @Alsjemenou because appeasement totally works with dictators and lebensraum

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          I honestly don’t think Zelensky is a Nazi. He may be an open Nazi collaborator but I think he sees that as a necessity. Dictator yes, but lebensraum? You mean with the breakaways?

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            “By proxy” doesn’t change the nature of what he is. Collaboration is complicity. If there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

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      Aid for Ukraine is the absolute cheapest option

      One who consider a proxy war where thousand people die and a country get destroyed the “cheapest option” tells you how much they are in bad faith. For politicians your life is indeed cheap and something they can trash away for profits

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        This is a delicate situation. If a NATO country is sending troops to Ukraine, it will escalate the war into a full blown world war.

        We know what happened in both world wars, so there is no good answers here.

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          The answer is the west won. Presumably a good answer

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            Anglo dominance over the world is why the world is ending. Y’all are fucking shit stewards of a planet.

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        So no aid to Ukraine and show Russia that it can indeed start wars where thousands die and destroy countries, without negative consequences?

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          Where are the negative consequences for America? Why can America invade any country it wants and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent women and children but for some reason when Russia does it we have to show them they aren’t allowed?

          Only America and its allies can start wars and commit genocides?

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            Classic whataboutism.

            Because the US does interventionism, fund far-right politicians, etc., Russia (and China) can do as such, and even more. At least the US doesn’t want to “regain it’s old lost territories”.

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                In fairness it’s a solid criticism considering there’s two kinds of comparisons that aren’t made on equal footing. To argue U.S.'s kind of intervention is the same as the Russias, would be more appropriate to consider Russia’s pre 2014 involvement in Ukraine. If you want to compare full-scale military operations then ZILtoid makes a good point. We haven’t tried to annex another country in a long time.

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