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Cake day: June 29th, 2023

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  • I don’t see how both these claims can simultaneously be true.

    Sorry, my poor communications…I was referring to the social media companies, when I said they had been trying and failing for years. Not trying that hard mind you; moderation is a very expensive problem to solve, and they don’t want to spend money they don’t explicitly have to.

    (it’s) actually about making citizens more easily identifiable online.

    Maybe. That is speculation, probably a nice little side effect. But not the primary goal.

    Independent social media sites however, don’t all have the resources to implement verification systems, so some will feel the financial burden of compliance a lot harder, and others

    This is a great point; and there is an easy way to solve this problem. Not that the govt will care that a simple solution exists. If you don’t have an algorithmic feed a lot of the spread of misinformation is curtailed. If you are not allowed to host images/video etc directly than the moderation of them can be off loaded to 3rd parties.

    What’s more, knowing that the platforms they’re using have their identities will make a great many people more hesitant to speak critically about existing power structures.

    Another great point. I don’t have a good answer to this one, but there are anonymous leak avenues etc for serious stuff.


  • In any case, this ban is literally worse than just leaving the problem be.

    I don’t really agree; the ban will do two things.

    1/ it will show the social media companies that, Australia at least; has tools that they can use to reduce their power.

    2/ show kids that this is really serious; it is not just your parents saying shit you can ignore.

    Will some kids work out how to get around it; yep, 100%. Will it be a big portion; maybe, tech literacy is not as high as it could/should be.

    Holding platforms accountable to a bare minimum standard of moderation against misinformation, bullying and harassment might be a starting point.

    This would be great; but it is also too little too late. They have tried, and failed at exactly this for years.

    And hey, if socmed’s really that bad for you, then us adults could benefit from this alternative, too!

    It is that bad for you! Algorithmic social media is doing you harm.


  • I figure holding tech giants directly accountable for the specific harms they’ve caused

    What if; the social media giants are in another country. Your country doesn’t have jurisdiction there and can do fuck all in reality.

    Maybe fine them??? Sure, which they will fight in court until the end of time; all the while the harm continues.

    I don’t know if a ban will work, or what extra harms it will cause. But there are no good options to tackle this on the large scales of whole countries.

    Algorithmic social media is mind cancer; if you have a better suggestion for tackling this issue. Let us know.

    Lemmy is social media; but there is no algorithmic feed, my views are not being manipulated by some engagement maximizing machine.