Maybe if the world people were raising their kids in didn’t look so fucking gloomy thanks to some fascist fucks, they’d want to have more kids.
He is rich and has no reference for the price of everyday items
People are not having kids because the middle class cannot afford it. Assuming your household has the average American household income is 80k. Assuming a given household makes somewhere around this, this would give the household something like 40k at most after the kid’s associated expenses, which means that each parent would have a whopping 20k to themselves. This is positively fucked because they would have to have a quality of life similar to someone who is eligible for food stamps, but they would not be themselves.
All this will do is increase the number of children born into poverty.
I also find the implication that a human life is worth $5,000 disgusting.
It was clear to me that when the gov’t went after reproductive rights, it was because declining birthrates are detrimental to capitalism. How are you going to say a fetus is priceless and then say a live infant is worth $5,000? Fucking disgusting.
It costs $40k/year for daycare. Start handing out $5k to moms, daycare now costs $45k/year.
Maybe they should improve the quality of life for working families to get them to be confident enough to have more babies naturally?
…nah, it’s obviously the queers fault!
Japan has an aging population and tried a lot, with not much success…
Prosperity = less kids, so we shouldn’t be surprised what Trump is going to try…
lol at one point I was paying more for daycare than my mortgage.
5k, these people are 🤡
That tracks. I’m paying about $15k for pre-k/daycare throughout the year, which really only covers about 7-8mo, then there’s camps, babysitters, etc. I easily spend $25k on each kid and I’m not in New York or somewhere.
There’s literally been bipartisan efforts to expand the child tax credit ($1000 per year baseline, expanded to $2000 for 2018-2025 and expiring this year, plus COVID era provisions or up to $3000 or $3600 for 2021), and the bills to do so keep dying without a vote.
If they were serious about this they’d expand the 2021 program to where parents were getting $300 checks every month, and make that permanent and indexed to inflation.
So much of the Trump presidency is announcing a new program that sounds good, but isn’t even enough to make up for a program that he already killed.
300$ a month is already way below index.
Yeah but it’s fucking something man. At this point I’ll take anything. That’s a good grocery haul right there every single month.
Well we already lost that in 2022, when it dropped back down to a $2000 annual credit you get when you do your taxes the year after, and after this year it’ll drop again to $1000 unless the law is changed.
Still waiting for healthcare to be “fixed”. Definitely going to be any day now…
May barely cover the hospital bill for those many without health insurance. But of course the proposed bonus is intended for middle class white babies
Average cost for an uninsured birth is 19,000.
“I mean it’s one child, Michael. How much could it cost? Five thousand dollars?”
Remember all the garbage about welfare queens? I thought this was something that was morally wrong in the 90s to support people who have kids?
Better: remember all the gnashing of teeth about “latchkey kids”? These people will do anything besides the minimum necessary.
40k/year sounds premium. But what little do I know, I am German and pay about 3k/year for a very nice Kindergarten.
Here’s typical day care rates for Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Oklahoma is one of the lowest cost of living states in the nation, because it’s a hell hole with no social services and has been already doing Project 2025 for the past five years. This means salaries are similarly depressed - as a teacher, my first year take home pay per month was $2200. If I had a child then I would have nothing between day care and rent. (And I also would have needed the daycare, first year teaching is 60-100 hours a week.)
The people working at the facility are likely barely qualified and probably not making enough to support their families - likely on welfare.
This could be “premium” childcare like a Waldorf school or it could be the cost of putting 2 kids into regular daycare in an expensive city like San Francisco. It would certainly be cheaper in less expensive places, but incomes would also be lower.
Here are some estimates by state: https://illumine.app/blog/how-much-childcare-costs-by-state-in-usa
My friend went to a Waldorf school and she told me they didn’t teach her to read.
Only among the very stupid
So half the population
More MAGA!
Where is all this daycare money going? My daycare was like 8 ladies that just sat around in a playroom doing arts and crafts with us all day and took us to the pool and library in summer. They could have covered that on 2/3 kids each at 40k a year/kid. They didn’t seem to be particularly well off…
Daycare workers can cost about $30/hour, if you include taxes, insurance, benefits like paid time off, etc.
A typical daycare needs about 50 hours per week of coverage, and something like 8am to 6pm is about right.
Each worker can reasonably be expected to look after 4 kids.
So with perfect staffing (no overtime pay, enrollment at a perfect whole number multiple of 4), labor costs alone would be something like $375 per kid per week. Throw in rent, insurance, food, operational costs, administrative costs including certification and licensing, furniture/equipment, utilities, etc., and it’s not unreasonable for that cost to balloon to $750/week, or $39k per year.
This might give some clues: https://nwlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Two-Pager-Understanding-Private-Equity-in-Child-Care.pdf
It’s amazing how they get away with paying so little. My field is adjacent, and I’ve been open to working with elementary age, but the positions I see as “master teacher” at daycares are usually around $9-10 an hour - what I was making working at a fast food restaurant in 2015.
