Kamala Harris takes swipe at Musk and warns world to ‘remember the 1930s’ at Gold Coast real estate conference
www.theguardian.com
Former US vice-president tells conference ‘I do worry, frankly, about what’s happening right now in the world’
  • XNX@slrpnk.net
    32·
    2 days ago

    I remember the liberals not doing nearly enough to fight the fascists

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    5020·
    2 days ago

    Hey, Harris: you are part of the problem. You are the controlled opposition. You lost the race. The DNC and Biden sure as fuck helped you lose, but at the end of the day, you lost. You sold us down the river and paved the way for the fascists to take over. How about sit down and shut the fuck up.

    • Wizzard@lemm.ee
      134·
      2 days ago

      Do you really think this party simply “shutting up” will help??

      • 3abas@lemm.ee
        83·
        2 days ago

        Yes. All they do is pacify the public by providing an illusion of fighting back. If they “simply” shut up, people might notice they actually did nothing more than talk.

        They don’t even throw little bones here and there while making bigger concessions anymore. Bernie Sanders will spend 17 minutes describing the genocide in Gaza in grotesque detail and refuse to use that word, because there’s a line that must not be crossed when playing the part of fighting with the people, and you’ll get praised and declared the savior of the country.

        They do nothing but say just enough to pacify you, to make you think someone is fighting on your behalf.

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
      85·
      2 days ago

      Sure, there are major problems with the Democratic Party, and their loyalty to the same special interests as the Republicans, but they will never win until the Party as a whole acknowledges that the BIGGEST factor in HitlerPig’s election was cheating by Skum, the Russians, and MAGA-led county election boards around the country.

      The Dems could properly address EVERY issue they have, and they’d still lose, until they decide to grow some big brass balls and a stainless steel spine and confront the open treason and naked criminality of the MAGA Nazi Party, and the Conservative Propaganda Machine.

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        91·
        2 days ago

        I guess my point is that it’s REALLY hard for me to see a difference between the Democratic Party and voting 3p, considering how ineffectual they are when they have power (especially under the circumstances), and how they keep electorally shitting the bed because they’re so fucking beholden to neoliberal corporatist idiocy - which, I must point out, is what makes them lose elections.

      • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
        2·
        20 hours ago

        She did campaign with a Cheney and refused to distance herself from Biden! What else do you fucking plebs want? Someone who actually seems to want to change things for the better?

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        152·
        2 days ago

        She is absolutely culpable, though. She let the DNC and Biden kill any chance - and there was a real chance - of victory. She toed the party line, and she lost because of it.

      • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net
        116·
        2 days ago

        Yes. Exactly. Harris lost, and it is her fault, and her responsibility.

        The average American is not a political expert. (Duh.) They rely on information, and persuasion, from the actual political experts, to decide whose policies fit their values and who their best choices as political representatives are.

        If a political party has the best policies, but fails to make the case for those policies to the American people, the fault is not with the American people, but with the party that failed to make its case.

        In this case, Trump waged a vicious propaganda campaign based on blatant fucking lies. And the Harris campaign was too incompetent or cowardly to effectively call out those blatant fucking lies - partially because Trump was so much better at social media than Harris, and partially because Harris was afraid to stand up for the trans people and immigrants and other marginalized groups Trump was attacking.

        (Biden shit the bed so badly nobody in his administration could have won by running on his record, of course, but that doesn’t absolve Harris for her own failures.)

        Any political party that starts blaming voters for not agreeing with it, instead of accepting its own responsibility to convince voters, is headed to permanent minority party status. And as happy as I’d be to see the Democrats permanently marginalize themselves and make room for an actual progressive party, right now they’re the only roadblock in Congress against Project 2025.

        • CtrlAltDefeat@sh.itjust.works
          79·
          2 days ago

          JFC quit blaming everyone else. This country is fucked because of this dumb shit. We, as a country, are at fault. Not Biden not Kamala, not even Donald. They only have influence because we voted for them.

          Any argument against this is just cope.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
    162·
    2 days ago

    We have Trump and now this fricking idiot failure clogging the news feeds. This is the Worst possible reality to live in.

  • Archangel@lemm.ee
    1621·
    3 days ago

    Aah, yes. Remember when Germany failed to adequately deal with a traitor who attempted a coup, who then came back and took power again? Yeah.

    • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      2 days ago

      We have an actual CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT (14A/Sec 3), that expressly prohibits anyone who participated in an Insurrection from holding elected office. Clearly HitlerPig fits that, but nobody in the Democratically- held Biden administration was bold enough to force compliance. If they had, like MANY Americans were calling for, MAGA would be totally out of power right now.

      • Archangel@lemm.ee
        14·
        2 days ago

        It wasn’t that they didn’t “force compliance”…they tried. They tried at the Federal level and at the State level…and all cases centered around that approach, failed in the Supreme Court.

        The argument was, that since there was no stated mechanism for disqualification in the amendment itself, that only a legal conviction on that charge, could prevent him from running again. And they ran out of time getting that particular case through the courts.

        • Brandonazz@lemmy.world
          12·
          2 days ago

          The Supreme Court ruled that the president is above the law during Biden’s term. It was entirely in his power to take enforcement action and let the courts sort it out later.

          • Archangel@lemm.ee
            13·
            2 days ago

            And what would that have done? They still ruled that he could run, so it would have been a complete waste of time.

    • Gsus4@mander.xyz
      32·
      3 days ago

      They fear leftism (even if it is democratic, moderate, they even hate new deal capitalism designed to save them from themselves ffs) more than fascism, that’s the issue. Even most dems.

      • NeilBrü@lemmy.world
        121·
        2 days ago

        Why do you hate Bill Gates now?

        A lot of things, but I suppose being a partaker of the Slaaneshi Shenaniganstm at Epstein’s island could be pretty near the top.

      • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
        131·
        2 days ago

        He said openly in the '90s that he wants “to own the entire world.” That clearly hasn’t changed.

        Also, I’ve hated him since the '90s because of who he is.

      • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
        22·
        2 days ago

        It’s a nice gesture and better than nothing, but having been properly taxed, so governments could fund programs for their people would have been even better

      • eureka@aussie.zoneEnglish
        293·
        3 days ago

        Why do you hate Bill Gates now?

        Always have. This isn’t a new concept, and their reputation laundering philanthorpism does not come close to countering the harm they and their foundation are still doing.

        Hasn’t he been redistributing wealth properly?

        For starters, holding around a hundred billion is hardly redistributing. That’s still hoarding.

        I don’t have time right now to find that short-list of critiques @[email protected] has, but in the mean time, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthrocapitalism is a good diving board, combined with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation#Criticism

      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
        171·
        2 days ago

        So he has the same amount of wealth as the median person now?

        Until he stops being rich he’s part of them

    • aceshigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      494·
      3 days ago

      And she continues to not do anything. I think the lesson here is that she would have made a bad president. Look at AOC, look at Bernie. But the d’s don’t want them (ie: Bernie 2016 and AOC not getting picked for a position that was given to a dude that just died)

    • Kruh Master@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3124·
      3 days ago

      Stop blaming the obvious (and admitted to) cheating on non-voters. Even if we all voted, he still would’ve won by a Starlink landslide.

  • h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    522·
    3 days ago

    the guest of honour at the 2025 Australian Real Estate Conference

    Thanks for your hard work in taking up the fight comrade. 07

    • dwazou@lemm.eeOP
      1011·
      3 days ago

      Still better than Goldman Sachs, Blackrock or Google…

      She could make a lot more money in New York City or San Francisco. The simple fact she is going all the way to Australia to speak to Australian realtors means she is paying very close attention to how her actions are perceived.

  • ceenote@lemmy.world
    471·
    3 days ago

    It’s not just Elon Musk, it’s people just like him (if more discrete) and the system that allowed them to get so absurdly wealthy and powerful, which Kamala Harris and her ilk have no intention of changing.

    • aceshigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      3 days ago

      The d’s are standing on the sidelines watching it happen because they want this to happen.

  • SW42@lemmy.world
    378·
    3 days ago

    Please please please dear democrats, as a European I’m begging you to select a candidate that can take it up with trump, doesn’t have dementia and I’m sorry to say that in your case it has to be male one. America just isn’t ready for a female president. Don’t fuck it up. Sincerely, a concerned European.

    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlEnglish
      13·
      2 days ago

      Please please please dear European, get your country to issue sanctions to the US and force our plutocrats to stop profiting from genocide.

      When our progressive candidates try to attend debates on the campaign trail, they’re arrested. Their names are not allowed on ballots. Our country is ruled by plutocrats. We have no democracy. We are the greatest threat to all life on earth. We need your help. Don’t fuck it up. Sincerely, a concerned US American.

    • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      293·
      3 days ago

      Two of the worst female politicians losing on uninspiring neoliberal campaigns is not an indication of whether a woman can win.

        • kreskin@lemmy.world
          51·
          2 days ago

          He’s a zionist.
          Your saying this is a perfect demonstration of the centrist dems not learning anything from losing the last election. No more genocide = no more zionists. Either the dems kick AIPAC dominance out of the party or the democratic party ceases to exist. Thats the choice for centrists. The dems arent winning another election otherwise. They cant win without the left and the left wont accept genocide.

          We’ll ride this right into extinction if we have to. Try us.

      • Soulg@ani.socialEnglish
        714·
        3 days ago

        He can probably win pretty easily. I’ll take it.

        This isn’t the fucking time to let perfect be the enemy of good enough.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          14·
          3 days ago

          Newsom isn’t even liked in his home state. Republicans wont ever vote for a Democrat, and he’s had a long history of “Rules for thee, not for me.” Plus his mishandling of homeless issues, his platforming of right wing grifters on his podcast, and just general insufferable way of handling most issues is a turn off for anyone with compassion.

        • zbyte64@awful.systems
          113·
          3 days ago

          Newsom is good enough like Biden was good enough in 2020. Everyone is learning the wrong lessons.

              • zbyte64@awful.systems
                6·
                2 days ago

                Which explains why Democratic leadership approved the GOP budget in the past: enabling Republicans to do their worse is their election strategy.

                • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  5·
                  2 days ago

                  Maybe because Democrats get elected after Republicans mess up the economy, they want to enable their horrid polices as an attempt at an easy win.

                  Now that makes sense honestly. They can’t win with boring candidates in stable-ish times. John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris all flopped because they didn’t offer much in times of stability.

                  So why not enable more genocide, allow the few who have homes to lose them, ramp up racism and xenophobia, it makes “I will maybe roll some of these back” look good like it did in 2020.

  • Kurious84@eviltoast.orgEnglish
    165·
    3 days ago

    Wealth is poison. It corrupts these simpletons and makes the world a worse place.

    And Kamala should just chill. She didn’t have the guts to be herself. She’s a pathetic advocate against Trump and these billionaire cack suckers.