Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.
This is nail no.2 in the coffin.
Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now
great advertisement for signal
I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?
Yes, because we’re only a few weeks away from Artificial General Intelligence, which will create an Artificial Superintelligence, and it’ll be just like in the hit cyberpunk novel, Don’t Create the Torment Nexus.
now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.
I guess I will never use xAi.
Or Telegram.
Bingo!
Uninstalled!
There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed
Whelp. Same thought :(
I don’t know why people stuck with it. I’ve used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:
- It’s not owned by Meta
- “Putin hates Durov!”
- “Unlimited” storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)
But your messages are not E2EE by default (only “Secret Chats”, which aren’t synced across devices)…Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.
“Why would they care about my messages though?” ------> Because $300 Million.
This. The second Premium landed I was out, and it was slipping long before that.
First thing i’m doing is opening a channel to run up Grok API calls maliciously
ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c
Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.
Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to “help fund things” (but they’re also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.
So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?
not even available on desktop clients, or for group chats
Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.
Telegram ASTOUNDS me.
Like, there’s been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.
Their bot api is very easy to use. I have made some telegram bots because is so easy. Tried to do the same with WhatsApp and didn’t even get permission and api access.
Average Joes use mainstream things, if you want to do something accessible, these bots are the way. Ideally, you want them to download or use an app that does some hand holding. I’m all up to the fediverse but let’s be honest, it has some non intuitive things for today’s user, most were trained to understand and like centralized services. They vaguely understand and use emails today, and mostly for account creation of other platforms.
Disclaimer: haven’t tried to make signal bots, they are a thing?
No disrespect towards you or your response (which is a good response, btw) – but the Bot API being good means absolutely nothing when the core app is garbage. By “garbage”, I mean that it ignores basic best-practices (like not E2EE everything, which they claimed wasn’t possible with device sync – but look at FB Messenger, Signal, Whatsapp, etc all able to do it).
Nobody is allowed to ask me why that matters. Because the answer is $300 Million.
It matters because when you try to build something new, you choose the path of least resistance. I’m not justifying it, I’m explaining it. Also, guess who doesn’t gives shit about E2EE? Average Joes.
I agree with you, but still your idea of garbage is not shared by the general population. Remember that telegram got traction because it falsely claimed that it was secure, or at least more secure than WhatsApp.
Big yikes
So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?
Are we calling him a politician now? 😭
You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!
Hasn’t Elon said that he’s “retiring” like every month 47 has been in office?
Just bullshit to try to appease Tesla investors.
Federal government threatened Telegram and demanded a backdoor a while back, iirc.
Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal
- Matrix (Element etc…)
- XMPP
- Session
- SimpleX
- Signal
- GNU-Jami
- Briar
Briar would be great if I knew anyone who was willing to use briar
How is it for file sharing? It’s my main use of telegram
Element here all the way!
How is Signal financed?
Donations and grants.
Donations I believe.
XMPP for me. Signal is nice, but you’ll never know how nice and their software is very restrictive imo.
How many people pressed the play button in the image. I know I did.
Im pretty brain rotted, but I guess I’m not quiiiite there yet…
