• ikt@aussie.zone
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      3 days ago

      why are you linking me to articles i read ages ago?

      Nor is smartphone AI going to do the things people what AI to do. It won’t let the CEO take your job.

      You think AI is only useful if it’s taking someones job?

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        why are you linking me to articles i read ages ago?

        Perhaps because you didn’t understand what they said.

        You think AI is only useful if it’s taking someones job?

        It’s why companies are dumping billions into it.

        If the models were actually getting substantially more efficient, we wouldn’t be talking about bringing new nuclear reactors online just to run it.

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          Perhaps because you didn’t understand what they said.

          they repeat what i said, did you read them? previously ai model training was entirely based on simply buying more chips as fast and as hard as possible, deepseek changed that

          From your own article

          Is it impressive that DeepSeek-V3 cost half as much as Sonnet or 4o to train? I guess so. But OpenAI and Anthropic are not incentivized to save five million dollars on a training run, they’re incentivized to squeeze every bit of model quality they can. DeepSeek are obviously incentivized to save money because they don’t have anywhere near as much.

          https://www.seangoedecke.com/is-deepseek-fast/

          The revelations regarding its cost structure, GPU utilization, and innovative capabilities position DeepSeek as a formidable player.

          https://www.yahoo.com/news/research-exposes-deepseek-ai-training-165025904.html

          ^ fyi that article you linked to is an AI summary of a semianalysis.com article, maybe AI is useful after all ;)

          If the models were actually getting substantially more efficient, we wouldn’t be talking about bringing new nuclear reactors online just to run it.

          Youtube uses a fuck ton of power but is an incredibly efficient video delivery service

          The growth and popularity of AI and its uses is simply outpacing the efficiency gains

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            3 days ago

            they repeat what i said, did you read them? previously ai model training was entirely based on simply buying more chips as fast and as hard as possible, deepseek changed that

            Yes, and it says exactly what I claimed. DeepSeek is an improvement, but not to the level initially reported. Not even close.

            Youtube uses a fuck ton of power but is an incredibly efficient video delivery service

            What a colossally stupid thing to say. We’re not looking at starting up new nuclear reactors to run YouTube.

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              3 days ago

              DeepSeek is an improvement, but not to the level initially reported.

              🫠 I cannot be any clearer:

              previously ai model training was entirely based on simply buying more chips as fast and as hard as possible, deepseek changed that