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    2 months ago

    How the fuck does the US manage to make people stand in line for early voting?

    In every civilized country, you can show up on election day (when basically everyone has a free day cause it’s Sunday), you vote with maybe 3-4 people in line before you, and you’re done after 10 minutes.

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      This is what happens in some Republican controlled states when they limit the times and places and how people can vote. Trump said a few years ago that if minorities vote, Republicans will never win another election. So Republican controlled states started getting rid of polling stations and changing voting times to standard working hours, etc, knowing that people wouldn’t be able to take time off from work to stand in the now longer lines (due to fewer polling stations) or would want to stand in longer lines.

      Plus, election day is not a national holiday like it is in most other countries, so people don’t get the day off to vote. Though some companies give 3 or 4 hours paid time off strictly for voting.

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        The people’s will gets in the way of the will of the Oligarchs, religious leaders, and Plutocrats. Hence the effort to make it hard to vote.

    • Man you see how it happens. You see these Republicans out there trying to fuck everything when it comes to making it easy to vote. In some places you dip your finger in a jar of ink after you cast your vote, that’s how they make sure nobody was twice on election day. In some places, I assume it’s all computerized and still accurate. That, and Nobody wants to run for office and get death threats from their neighbors, the most absolute gullible dumbasses in town. Every person in my neighborhood with a Trump sign have no idea how anything works except their own one particular job, and how to get scared at anything else.

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      I dont know I live in America, longest it has ever taken me to vote on Election Day is 20 minutes, yet people are still waiting in long lines to early vote this year. Typically few people early vote so there are fewer early voting places. But that is not the case this year, so we have giant early vote lines. I am not sure why my neighbors are waiting in long lines to early vote when it will take 10 times as long as in Election Day.

  • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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    Hello, fellow Okie.

    I know how this state is going to vote. It’s been a given every year for nearly six decades. But I’m still gonna vote, as I have in every election since I turned 18. Change doesn’t happen if those who want it get discouraged and sit their asses at home.

    What has really inspired me this year is the overwhelming majority of Harris-Walz signs in my neighborhood. I stopped counting, but I reckon there are at least thirty of them. I’ve seen a grand total of five Trump-Vance signs, and three of them are at the same house.

    Also, you get much rain last night? It was so good to finally hear thunder again. I had six tenths in my rain gauge this morning!

    Update: I stood in line for an hour and a half and cast my ballot. Next time around, I’ll remember to request my mail-in ballot on time lol

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    It’s weird seeing queues for voting.

    When I vote, I walk to my local voting place, chat with people I know, vote, chat a bit more, then walk home. Perhaps half an hour, if I’m feeling chatty.

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      This is what voter suppression looks like.

      I grew up in Missouri before moving to Washington state. When I reached voting age, it was (and still is) ridiculously common to see polling places in rural and suburban areas with no waiting to vote. Meanwhile, in the cities (which happen to vote more democratic), you’ll see loooong lines extending outside. When voting facilities and staff are not proportionally distributed to accommodate voter density, you get shit like this; voters in different districts receiving different treatment. And people who live there never know any better to ask for something different.

      This all blew my mind after living first in a suburban area, then an urban one, and now living in a state that has done voting my mail for decades. I love voting by mail. It’s unconcionable to me at this point for people to stand for in-person voting anymore.

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    I’ve never stood in like for early voting in the EU. I’ve done it at my supermarket while getting groceries.

    Grab a ballot and envelope, enter booth, do the thing, walk to desk, flash id, get crossed off list, watch volunteer put your envelope in another envelope and drop it in the ballot box.

    In-and-out, three minutes.

    Come to think of it, voting on election day has always been just as smooth. I just have to go to the library or some school, so it’s not as convenient.

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              Did you even look at the post? Does that look like a “big cybercafe” to you?

              Libraries are the only place in this country where everything is free and you can stay as long as you want with no one giving you any shit for it as long as you follow some basic rules.

              Go look at my post and then come back here and tell me about how things like a free shower and washer/dryer for homeless people, a commercial level kitchen for anyone to use and a tool library where you can take home power tools you need are a bad thing that shouldn’t exist.

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                No, because Jerboa can’t find the post.

                And no, that’s not a library. That’s a community center.

                That those have been eradicated is a separate issue from libraries being eliminated as places for readers.

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                  What the fuck are you talking about? It’s literally a library.

                  Do you have a degree in library science or are you just talking out your ass because you don’t actually know what a public library is and think it’s just a place where you get books even though that’s never been true?

                  Because I’m guessing it’s the latter, but feel free to tell me where you got your degree from.

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    Man I left reddit to get away from the fear mongering like this, and yet here you are.

    Both parties benefit from the current system, therefore they both want to keep things the way they are.

    The system works.

    If you don’t like the current state of things, it’s not the system that needs changing, it’s the people involved in it.

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    Little bit of advice from Poland. I’ve seen this kind of mindset before.

    When liberals tell you losing will mean the end of democracy they exaggerate a lot. People grow tired of fighting with such high stakes so in the long run you just wear them out. Sure, if Trump wins things will suck definitely but it’s not the end of the world. Ultimately biggest political parties serve various oligarchs so once Dems are inevitably back some years from now you’ll notice not much is changing for you personally.

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      People grow tired of fighting with such high stakes so in the long run you just wear them out

      This is true.

      Sure, if Trump wins things will suck definitely but it’s not the end of the world. Ultimately biggest political parties serve various oligarchs so once Dems are inevitably back some years from now you’ll notice not much is changing for you personally.

      This is where I vehemently disagree. Just because you’re not going to be one of the first ones they target doesn’t mean it’s no big deal. They’re talking about using our local police to round millions of people up and put them in camps, and you’re going to sit there and tell me it’s not the end of the world? Get the fuck out of here.

      It’s okay to be tired. Fight anyway. That is what is required to maintain Democracy. Giving in to authoritarianism because it’s easier is a bitch move.

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        I’m genuinely curious, who is getting rounded up? And who’s going to let that happen?

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          He’s talking about deporting millions of illegal immigrants, which will probably require putting them in a camp at least temporarily.

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            So the “camps” side of things definitely feels gross, but he’s “threatening” to enforce the law, that’s not wrong. Now if he’s weaponizing the system to deport his opposition or otherwise law abiding citizens, that’s a problem.

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              He has promised to deport pro-palestine protesters.

              Most of whom are born Americans.

              You’re not paying attention. The camps are for far more than just the undocumented.

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                Okay, but legally he can’t do that. No matter how much he wants to. And once again, orders are as only good as the people who are tasked with carrying them out.

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                  He’s a literal criminal who has filled the courts with his minons and the police love him.

                  Who’s going to stop him? Seriously who?

                  His term this time is going to be worse than last time because he and the republican party have removed all the ways we have to stop him from doing whatever the fuck he wants.

                  Official acts are completely legal now. He can order protesters executed and the supreme court already said that’s fine.

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        Will US under Trump be more or less of a Nazi state than, for example, under Nixon?

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          More obv. My post was a warning that a 2nd term would not be good.

          You should probably learn how to hedge your bets. What if harris doesn’t win? Would it be better or worse if we had more dems in congress for a trump pres?

          Isn’t it better if people who wouldnt show up for harris still show up to vote dems down ballot? Maybe stop attacking them over Harris and invite them to vote down ballot for dems by supporting their cause. Unless, you know, you’re pro genocide then you can fuck right off.

          Stop making harris support your identity makes you look like an asshole.

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            In what ways will it be worse / more Nazi than under Nixon? Healthcare? Infrastructure? Minority rights? Black rights? Waging wars and supporting genocide in some third world country? Sorry to break it to you but US was always a borderline fascist state and that includes Democrats.

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              Lol exactly what you think you’ll accomplish this line of reasoning? That you’ll convince people harris is the best option for their vote? You wont.

              That entire list is better dealt at congressional and local levels of the ballot, and is entirely unrelated to the presidential ticket. Stop wasting your breath on a failed argument. Also are you sure you’re responding to the correct person? Im well aware America has/is borderline fascist.

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                I’m trying to explain to Dem voters that their moral high ground and calling everyone a Nazi will lead Republican voters to entrench in views pushed by far right even if they didn’t hold them before. Dem voters are supposed to be the smart ones so they should understand that, right?

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                  So you’re arguing with a leftist to convince liberals that they’re assholes? 😵‍💫. I mean I already knew this, but okay. Not particularly interested in discussing the million ways trump is horrible.

                  Im more interested in making sure harris campaign is as rough and hard as possible because her positions are absolutely atrocious and we as voters need to leverage the conditions of our local voting environments effectively by voting strategically against her without risking trump.

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    No matter who wins it won’t be our last election. I do know that the next one will definitely be the most important election of our lifetime though.