I don’t understand how it’s not a requirement to pass these safety regulations before manufacture. How can a company fully produce and sell a dangerous product as big and complicated as a car before someone regulatory sees it and cuts it off at the head?
This alone has left me with zero faith in pretty much anything I buy anymore. It’s like it’s a surprise when something works as advertised anymore.
of course, they also allow unlimited brightness headlights (or at least near enough), so it shouldn’t be a surprise that they don’t give a fuck about people outside of the vehicle
The more you learn about America, the more you understand they give 0 fucks about the people. It’s a capitalistic nightmare where corporations have no accountability.
And the US gave it a full pass on safety regulations basically without even looking at it. And this isn’t an uncommon occurrence here, it’s just how the board works - pay enough money to get the rubber stamp.
I’m not in the industry and I’m not in the EU, but it was obvious that this ridiculous monstrosity wouldn’t pass the most basic safety regulations in the UK and EU. There are rules about having soft edges for collisions with pedestrians. Tesla completely ignored these despite begging aware of the regulations for the multiple other cars they sell here successfully.
You’re also not allowed to just make cars out of whatever random material you desire. It has to be automotive steel, and plastic for body work. Not inch thick stock metal that you would normally use to beat an elephant to death
Not so much loopholes as existing mechanisms. There are ways to import vehicles and modify them to be road safe / legal, called homologation which involves submitting a lot of paperwork, taxes, inspections and certifications to an EU government and having a car be certified. And also more restrictive special permits so a vehicle can be shown at events or whatever. The cybertruck however is simply too far over the line that no amount of modification would make it road legal.
I heard stories about people not even doing that, only abusing grace periods where you can drive a vehicle from abroad on our roads while you do the paperwork.
I’ve heard of people trying to get Cybertrucks road legal. Some guy in Czech republic almost managed it until a public outcry had his certification revoked. Another guy in UK had his car impounded. So if people are stupid enough to try driving their extremely recognizable illegal vehicle then they risk losing their it entirely.
It has never been on sale in the EU, there are a few that was given special permission to drive in limited areas for marketing and testing, but nothing more than that.
So, most metals will work harden when flexed even before reaching the yield point, while steel does not. This hardening of the metal will eventually cause metal fatigue and failure.
This does not rule out aluminum as a structural metal. Look at airplanes, there are 70 year old Cessnas still in service with semi-monocoque aluminum airframes.
As for cars a LOT of cars have aluminum or composite frames. The Mercedes SL, the Audi A8, the BMW i8, manufactured in Europe with aluminum chassis. Several makes from America and the far East have aluminum frames as well; Chevrolet Corvettes have had partial aluminum frames since the 90’s and GM started making all-aluminum frames for the Z06 models circa 2005, the Acura NSX has an aluminum frame.
Most cars are made of steel because it’s cheap, not by requirement.
Thank you for the informative comment. I have mild interest in materials science and I wasn’t aware of that property of steel v aluminum and other metals
I don’t understand how it’s not a requirement to pass these safety regulations before manufacture. How can a company fully produce and sell a dangerous product as big and complicated as a car before someone regulatory sees it and cuts it off at the head?
This alone has left me with zero faith in pretty much anything I buy anymore. It’s like it’s a surprise when something works as advertised anymore.
I cannot speak for EU regulatory bodies. But Canada gave it a provisional pass pending testing because the US gave it a full pass
Fooled you once, shame on America…
… Fool me - you can’t get fooled again.
and I am very disappointed in my country for it
of course, they also allow unlimited brightness headlights (or at least near enough), so it shouldn’t be a surprise that they don’t give a fuck about people outside of the vehicle
The more you learn about America, the more you understand they give 0 fucks about the people. It’s a capitalistic nightmare where corporations have no accountability.
Right America and Musk are the same /s
When did they say anything about Musk?
The fact that they didn’t is the point. “America” didn’t design this truck, dipshit Musk did
And the US gave it a full pass on safety regulations basically without even looking at it. And this isn’t an uncommon occurrence here, it’s just how the board works - pay enough money to get the rubber stamp.
I’m not in the industry and I’m not in the EU, but it was obvious that this ridiculous monstrosity wouldn’t pass the most basic safety regulations in the UK and EU. There are rules about having soft edges for collisions with pedestrians. Tesla completely ignored these despite begging aware of the regulations for the multiple other cars they sell here successfully.
You’re also not allowed to just make cars out of whatever random material you desire. It has to be automotive steel, and plastic for body work. Not inch thick stock metal that you would normally use to beat an elephant to death
They likely knew it would only be sold in North America only.
I have a feeling that the engineers knew but Elon didn’t, or thought he could do his usual and force it through.
Because any serious company would make sure they can actually sell their product before they go to manufacturing.
Tesla likely knew the Cybertruck wouldn’t leave North America in serious numbers.
Well i guess the EU can’t stop something being manufactured in the US.
No, but it should have required a passing test before going on sale in the EU
It never was for sale in the EU, it was always imported via loopholes where the EU assumed that the US would put roadworthy stuff on its roads.
Not so much loopholes as existing mechanisms. There are ways to import vehicles and modify them to be road safe / legal, called homologation which involves submitting a lot of paperwork, taxes, inspections and certifications to an EU government and having a car be certified. And also more restrictive special permits so a vehicle can be shown at events or whatever. The cybertruck however is simply too far over the line that no amount of modification would make it road legal.
I heard stories about people not even doing that, only abusing grace periods where you can drive a vehicle from abroad on our roads while you do the paperwork.
I’ve heard of people trying to get Cybertrucks road legal. Some guy in Czech republic almost managed it until a public outcry had his certification revoked. Another guy in UK had his car impounded. So if people are stupid enough to try driving their extremely recognizable illegal vehicle then they risk losing their it entirely.
It has never been on sale in the EU, there are a few that was given special permission to drive in limited areas for marketing and testing, but nothing more than that.
did it not ?
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So, most metals will work harden when flexed even before reaching the yield point, while steel does not. This hardening of the metal will eventually cause metal fatigue and failure.
This does not rule out aluminum as a structural metal. Look at airplanes, there are 70 year old Cessnas still in service with semi-monocoque aluminum airframes.
As for cars a LOT of cars have aluminum or composite frames. The Mercedes SL, the Audi A8, the BMW i8, manufactured in Europe with aluminum chassis. Several makes from America and the far East have aluminum frames as well; Chevrolet Corvettes have had partial aluminum frames since the 90’s and GM started making all-aluminum frames for the Z06 models circa 2005, the Acura NSX has an aluminum frame.
Most cars are made of steel because it’s cheap, not by requirement.
Thank you for the informative comment. I have mild interest in materials science and I wasn’t aware of that property of steel v aluminum and other metals
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Regulations in Europe are stricter than in the US. It’s legal in the US but won’t be here without substantial changes.
It’s, honestly, probably only legal in the US because of bribery.
They are free to fully produce, but not sell.
The article is misleading, the CyberTruck was never allowed in these jurisdictions.
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