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      I’m pretty sure he came to DC and got applause from Congress during a floor speech last time. Didn’t he?

      Oh, sorry, I’m thinking of a different international war criminal we love even more.

      So hard to keep track of them all.

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      As awful as he and Trump are, Diplomatic Immunity is legitimately important. Negotiations are impossible with the threat of imprisonment attached to attending.

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        No it isn’t. These “negotiations” are completely irrelevant, and are just two criminals colluding. They should both be arrested on the spot.

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        Do you think Hitler would have been granted diplomatic immunity if he visited?

        This is not a normal diplomat. This is a person who has committed multiple, documented, crimes against humanity. He is wanted by the International Criminal Court, commonly known as The Hague. If arrested they are likely to hang him until he is dead for the mass suffering he has caused around the world. That is the punishment the Nazis received.

        Legitimate negotiations are impossible without inviting Zelensky and yet they have declined to do so. To claim negotiations require diplomatic immunity for Putin, a war criminal, but not to invite Zelensky is ridiculous.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Russian_leaders

        Edit: I’m aware America isn’t signed up to the ICC, that doesn’t change the point though

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          If you decide Diplomatic Immunity doesn’t exist for one person, then it doesn’t exist at all.

          England just decided that public speech in support of Palestine is a crime. If a German diplomat stationed in England was opposed to the genocide in Gaza, would it be okay for them to imprison that diplomat?

          Laws against pro-Palestinian speech in England have more legal authority than the ICC has in the US.

          Yes, Putin is especially evil. He should be taken into custody and made to answer for his crimes. But that shouldn’t be done during a Diplomatic mission. If he doesn’t leave Russia for anything but Diplomacy, then the civilized world should take the necessary steps to remove him from Russia directly.

          I personally am a fan of the complete embargo of countries that are out of control. The US, Russia, and Israel should not be allowed to trade with the civilized world until they step into line.

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      We should have an amendment…a soil amendment made of 100% putin. Then plant a big big fig tree on it. Each fig carefully packaged and fed to anyone who was hungry in Ukraine. Trees are great at filtering the good from the bad in the soil.