I had a leg length discrepancy of a little under 3 inches when I was in middle school. They offered to either stop the growth in the long leg to let the short one catch up, or just directly lengthen the shorter one after I was done growing. After hearing what the process was for the latter, I happily chose the former. I’m alright being a little shorter if it means avoiding that torture.
What is crazy is a lot of us women are ok with short men.
yes, there are a vocal FEW women who speak for the plethora of us. But they can fuck right off along with the men who have weight and breast and hair color and hair straightness preferences and willing to overlook pure value to meet those explicit bullshit standards.
But in my experience It’s the men who are not ok with taller women and martyr that we (the collective we as a women) are (all) forcing them into this kind of situation. I’ve had more than a few men announce I’m not allowed to wear heels. Or go out of their way to tell me I’m too tall for them. It’s honestly not women alone going around setting these rules as ‘The’ women standards for men.
Women don’t ever say to who a man “well your breasts make mine look too small/your straight hair makes mine look too curly/your blond hair makes mine too brunette/your thin waist makes mine look thick” to knock themselves out of the run by self perception alone.
Men are not men’s best friend in so many ways and you guys really have to start being your own best friends too here rather than your worst enemies. And look into mental health please.
We really need to start promoting therapy more…
When I grew up it seemed like everything was only about women’s bra size. Don’t expect a man to want to date you if it is less than a C! Men want real women, not children without boobs! I’ve had classmates with <C who were planning their surgery by age 16. There was also a list circulating that some boys wrote where they judged the girls look based solely on boobsize.
Then we finally got rid of that bullshit and all agreed, that all boobsizes are ok. Just to turn around and replace it with this shitshow. It’s like we can’t just agree that everybody has different preferences, we just have to push the narrative that X property of a gender has to be a certain size, otherwise they are completely undatable.
It’s really so sad to watch this shit happening over and over again…
I think online dating makes this significantly worse for guys. If you’re meeting women IRL height is a lot less of an issue but online just that number becomes a huge barrier that you simply cannot overcome. Women who you would either have not interacted with much or would have been okay with your height if you had met in person will go out of their way to insult your height or wordlessly unmatch as soon as they find out how tall you are. It takes a lot of mental fortitude to keep your head up and realize that it’s just a false impression based on the messed up dynamics of online dating and I can see how it could just destroy a guy’s self esteem completely if he didn’t realize that or couldn’t keep the fact that it’s an illusion in mind.
Men called me too tall so it’s not all women setting this standard. Men are not being their own best friend more often than you think and are mean to both men and women over it.
online dating is a nightmare in general. If you are attractive and rich its probably very nice experience, but for the rest its just awful and makes you feel even more lonely and unwanted. Imo it should be regulated heavily.
…men asking women if they were female at birth.
Online dating is a garbage fire.
All because of toxic femininity and misandry.
Toxic masculinity too. If you read the article a lot of men are men’s worst enemy on height.
useful for people with severe leg length discrepency, but no body dysmorphia, it also ruins your walking, running ability too.
isn’t this just body dysmorphia?
also, men are also vulnerable to body image issues, and we’re also given unrealistic body standards in the media.
isn’t this just body dysmorphia?
No.
There are people liking dead bods and bald heads. There is hope 🤞
Keep the typo
Dead bods represent 💪
I’m a 5’5” dude and I love it tbh. My wife is an inch taller than me. Idk man, it’s never bothered me for a moment.
Going this far to be a bit taller seems insane, I’m almost certain the pain later in life from a surgery like this will really suck.
I firmly believe in the right to bodily autonomy and the freedom to modify one’s body in accordance with their wishes. But also this definitely fits in the same mental category as breast augmentation where I hope people discuss their body image with a therapist first.
I’ll admit, as a tall woman I’m probably the least likely sort to really understand, but I am sympathetic, even if I was attracted to men it would be unlikely for any given partner to be significantly taller than me, and as I’m not it’s downright rare. There’s lots of gendered awkwardness in being taller than most men, and I’m certain that short men aren’t lying when they say the inverse is also true. But also, the short men in my life still feel pretty damn manly to me and the ones who own it have a certain extra charm that comes from that.
Also, the article mentioning guys over 6’ doing this, and I really hope those guys talk to someone about it, because that sounds like it might be dysmorphia.
Also, the difference here is that while still an invasive operation, breast augmentation is way less destructive and still somewhat reversible compared to leg lengthening surgery. Not to mention the long and painful recovery process. And it’s not even guaranteed you’ll recover normally.
As a fellow fairly tall person, even beyond how it looks to be tall, you don’t need to be much over 6’ before it starts getting downright inconvenient. I’m just shy of 1.9m / 6’3", so by no means exceptionally tall (for my country and gender, at least) and like… there are a lot of times when it’s just troublesome. I don’t fit in places or things. A lot of clothes don’t fit me well. I hit my head on things. A lack of legroom is often uncomfortable. I feel like I’m ruining the view for other people at concerts. The idea of people close to my height actively going out of their way to make themselves even taller - even if it was a trivial process, which it clearly is not - is madness to me
Of course I do understand that it’s a self-image thing and such things do not care about practicalities. Everyone’s got to find a way to be happy with themselves. I get that. It’s just… god I hate hitting my head on stuff, that shit hurts
My husband is 6’3" and works in a university kitchen.
The tables are too short causing him to be hunched over all day. The doorways are too short, there are overheads on the cookware and he hits his head on both these things if he’s not paying attention.
He’s size 14 shoe and can’t just buy them off the rack and cost more. His knees and back are already failing him and he’s not yet 40.
On a less serious note, I never wear heels. Taking photos together is a nightmare.
I’m short, 5’1". I’ve dated men from my height to his and dont really have a preference other than confidence in one’s self.
People don’t get to choose their height, and being tall is not all it’s cracked up to be. I bet my husband would trade some height to be pain free if you asked him.
As someone who is 6’4", yeah, I feel similarly. Airplanes are terrible and I always hit my head on things. I kinda understand guys who are, like, 5’5" doing this. Most women like their partners to be taller than them, so it could significantly increase your dating pool to be 5’7". But once you’re at 6’, not only do most women not care at all if you are taller - they can’t even tell.
Fucking hell. I mean… fuck.
I wish the world would lose all of its stupid societal stigmas that make people feel less human than their equally human peers.
You are a tall person, aren’t you?
Edit/comment: downvotes for this? lol triggered tall people is too much.
Have you considered that the downvotes are because you made a stupid assumption?
I’m 6"6 but your comment is just tone deaf.
I’m 7’11 and I think he’s right on the mark
Nah, I’m not triGgeRed lol, so you are?
I’m only 5’11" but I agree with them.
Wait. 5 11 is short now?
Under 6’4" DNI /S
But for real a lot of Tinder bios and stuff have a 6’ minimum stated. While 6’+ people aren’t rare exactly, I’ve known many women and men who hover around that mark or exceed it, it does exclude a large segment of the population.
I think a large part of it is that women generally want a partner taller than them. Guys also seem to generally want a partner shorter than them. And a lot of people will just ignore others until someone checks all the boxes instead of taking a chance. This in turn tends to fuel the loneliness epidemic and can’t be good for self image.
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Fuck AI slop
What are you even talking about
Clankopath
Being 5’3", I’ve thought about this kind of thing in the past. But the risks are too great, and I’m not looking to live with more pain through my life than I already have, just for the cause of being taller.
There are plenty of women who would date a 5’3 man, and plenty of the women are shorter than 5’3
I’m going to say this simply, given my dating history. Any man who’s a halfway decent person can find someone who will love them and ignore relatively minor physical issues (and sometimes major physical issues too). Any man who’s complaining about not getting dates just because he’s short has one of three situations:
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He has the wrong social circle.
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It has nothing to do with his height, and the prospects he’s approaching recognize the red flags.
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His own insecurities make it impossible for him to prioritize another person.
Of those, I have sympathy only for the first. Finding love is not easy for anyone, and it is possible to simply not know where to look. Otherwise, it’s not about his height, it’s either about his demeanor, or his own issues around his height.
My reason for wanting to be taller is extremely pragmatic: I need to be able to reach stuff in my kitchen cabinets without standing on the counter or getting a ladder. I need to be able to shop in stores without having to stand on the shelves to get stuff up top. Simple stuff. I’d also just once like to be able to see over someone’s head in a packed movie theater, so that I don’t have to choose between going only to shows that I think will have low attendance (matinees) or sitting so close to the screen that it’s overwhelming.
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Being tall sucks. I’m a dude and 6’6, if I could trade in for a normal sized body I’d do it in a heartbeat.
People are still dicks. Women don’t fall from heaven onto my dick. I don’t fit in cars, forget about flying. Finding clothes sucks ass. All
furniturethe world is child sized.I can find people in a crowd though, for what’s that worth…
The world is not child sized. I believe you when you say being tall suck. I am 1,5m, something like 4"11. So, the size of a child. I fit in cars, but I need a cushion. Lot of counters are so high that only my head sticks out. Finding clothes sucks too. My feet often don’t touch the ground when I’m seating on an adult chair. I have to climb so much things. I can’t reach all my shelves, even with a stool. Sometimes, sinks are a little too high.
I’m absolutely ok with my size, and I really think being small is easier than being really tall, but the world is not made for people my size. Really not.
As a 5’1" person, who, I’ve watched all the women in my family shrink with age, so I likely will too, I empathize with this statement.
The cabinet above the refrigerator in my home is empty. I cannot reach it even with a stool. I send my son up on the counter go get stuff from the top shelf for me. My feet also hang from many a chair. As a child, all my pants had to go to the seamstress to be hemmed. I remember finding a pair of capris pants in middle school, not realizing they were capris, and just being excited the length was right for pants on me. My mother used a cushion in her car as far back as I can remember, and I’m greatful new cars have more seating settings so I don’t have to do that.
The best positive is I can buy child sized shoes and save a buck. But I do enjoy being short overall. I’d rather be short than so tall. But yeah, the world is made for the middle height people. Folks on either ends of the height scale have to make accommodations.
Heey 6"6 here too, with slight back pain.
Nothing is made for us, socks, dispensers, ceilings, you name it.
Fun fact: in Sweden where I grew up, I was considered ‘too tall’, men shouldn’t be over 1m86-ish.
Can’t design society around extremes…
Everyone hates avg but being 160-180cm is the sweet spot for both me and women lol
And these people just don’t get the struggle because the world is made for their side lol
No one asked society to be “designed around extremes” lol, make place for everyone IMO!
Your height range is bullshit too, and not even what people “look for”, sweet spot pulled out of your behind lol.
Society designed itself around that avg
So Spanish society did and Swedish too?
What are you smoking lol 🤣
the world is child sized.
This is sort of what short men’s insecurities are rooted in.
Short people get infantilised to a degree which makes them feel less manly, which drives negative behaviours (short man syndrome?) and reinforces their insecurities as they fall into a sort of incel ideology.
That’s a them problem, this commenter got his
So because I can’t find a pair of pants tall enough without ordering it online I’m responsible for short mens’ insecurities?
No wonder the world is a shitshow right now
The way language is used shapes perceptions and insecurities, there are ways to frame your struggles that don’t denigrate others but my critisicm wasn’t levelled at yourself.
Its a societal issue and one that overwhelming affects young men. Those young men then look for solutions and fall into the easy trap of the ‘manosphere’ which preys on their insecurities and shows them a sort of toxic ‘success’.
There’s a reason all the far right rallies are full of manlets and overweight slobs. They’re vulnerable to the messaging and driven in that direction by a society that rejects them.
Yeah no that was caused by 3rd wave feminists giving the rancid tumor of gamergate legitimacy by addressing it across every fuckdamn channel shaming boys for liking boobs in video games
You speak in sweeping generalizations about human nature but seem to ignore the actual historical facts of the situation. Those posts and campaigns were made by people, decided by individuals, with the express purpose of marginalizing young men. THE EXPRESS PURPOSE. They literally stated it in their charters
Young men are severely disenfranchised in the modern world and certain specific repugnican social agents including Steve Bannon capitalized on this economic and social disenfranchization to devastating effect and positioned them to take heat from the screaming bluehaired lesbian committee instead of the actual deceitful organizers that planned the harassment campaigns.
From the mid 00-s to 2014 the entire web was flooded with misogynistic vitriol and calls of violence towards men as 3rd wave feminists finally got their chance to oppress. Mens social safety nets are orders of magnitude less robust than what are established for women. This made fertile ground for discontent that Bannon reaped with his conspiracy theory carousel.
And the WORST part is that ALL of you blame it on ‘fat incel manlets’ when the majority of them are just normal guys tired of being told they are inherently evil for liking big tits on a video game character, and being directly manipulated by a fascist con-man to get his favorite baby raper elected
And every fucking one of you fell for it, hell you are even yourself echoing the same hateful speech that was used to radicalize them
The analysis ain’t wrong but you can’t expect the normies to understand it…
Also, this is a culture war and you still playing it.
I don’t you see calling out the real culprit here either…
Is there a specific reason why you are giving paasites a pass while doing a culture war circle jerk?
Are you a useful idiot or poorly educated?
What kinda Gattaca bullshit is this?
Gattaca.
Came here to look for this comment
And in the film … at least he was able to accomplish his dream in the end … broken legs and all.
