• Denjin@feddit.uk
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    Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

    Sadly a lot is still dominated by roast dinners and meat and two veg (one of those veg is always potato) but go to any major city and you’ll likely find excellent quality restaurants from pretty much every culture on earth.

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      Thanks to successive waves of immigration in the 20th century from India, Bangladesh, the Caribbean, Africa, China and others we actually have a pretty diverse and vibrant food culture.

      OK, but the idea is that it’s the indigenous food that represents the place in question. The Indian (subcontinent), Caribbean, African, Chinese, etc cuisines count as the food culture of those places, not british food culture.

      Don’t be like germans who are stupidly deluded enough to say “The döner was invented in germany” , when , no, it wasn’t invented in germany, it was invented in the ottoman empire. Also, Hans isn’t out back in the kebab shop busting his ass making that gigantic log of meat, it’s Ahmet. If you want to argue that derived foods that are based on local ingredients are part of the food culture of that place, that’s a more interesting debate that isn’t cut and dry; no one is selling kapsolon made with gouda cheese in İstanbul, nor are they making Tacos al Pastor with pork and pineapples.

      British food is good. Kinda simple, but good. Just not legendary. It’s like a more mid version of itallian food; relies too much on fat and carbs and meat to feel delicious and satisfying, instead of advanced techniques or “just right” spice blends.

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        My point is that those immigrant communities have brought their food and their culture with them and they’ve created fusion dishes that have created a unique food culture, one that has itself been exported back abroad. Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

        If only indigenous food counted, American cuisine is hominy and fry bread and Indian food is lentils.

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          Like I’ve said elsewhere, most of the dishes people associate with Indian food were actually created in Indian restaurants in Britain.

          the absolute arrogance of this statement. Disgusting.

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            Lol, do some research. Tikka Masala, Balti, Korma, Butter Chicken, poppadoms, chutneys, all invented in British Indian restaurants.

            I make no personal claim to any of them so how can it be arrogant at all.

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              Onto what, an Indian guy slightly changing the recipe for a curry leading the brits claiming that any curry served outside of india is based off the tikka masala? Get your own fucking cuisine to export you lazy gits.

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                If you’re not prepared to actually have a civil conversation, kindly fuck off you idiot.

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                  No. The train was an indian invention, the reason countries except for britain and india have trains is because they are adapting to the mass transit ideas that are indian.

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      Sounds like you have had some shit roast dinners. A good roast dinner is amazing. I love all the foreign foods we have access to now as well, but our traditional cooking gets a lot of shit when really it’s just bad cooks. Although we do also have stuff like jellied eels and mushy peas, so I’m not saying it’s all good…

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        I love a roast, it’s one of my favourite meals, but a shit roast is proper shit.

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      I went eating at an Italian restaurant in, I don’t know, somewhere in the Highlands, and I haven’t been aware that it was run by Scottish people, including the kitchen. Our trip had many highlights and was really cool all in all, but that food has to be the deepest trench we had to pass through.

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        Fuck grandma, my roast dinners are an event. Got my roastie game en point, my yorkies are crispy and all the trimmings are standard. Plus the gravy, not to brag, will make you jizz your pants its that good.

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          Totally unrelated, but you made me question if the phrase is supposed to be “en pointe” like ballet or “on point.” after a little research, I’m guessing it’s “on point” but it seems like the etymology could be from ballet potentially, but it sounds like it isn’t likely. At the end of the day, it means exactly the same thing so it doesn’t really matter. I do find it funny you used “en point” instead of “en pointe” though. Halfway between the two I guess. Lol.

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            Honestly, getting it wrong in either sense might be the most British thing I’ve ever done.

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            Honestly, beef wellington isn’t bad or anything but it’s definitely overrated. Don’t bother trying to make one, just find one at a restaurant and wonder what the fuss was about.

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          See, gravy is so easy - meat juice, stock, bit of balsamic - I think how can you fuck this up? Then you get gravy litteraly in any commercial setting, and… urgh…