How are you supposed to dislike something if you don’t understand it?
It’s not like AI is intrinsically harmful bad or evil. This pursuit of simulated sapience seems to be generating endless numbers of delusional pathologies and harmful externalities but using computational logic to answer questions and scour databases is objectively a wonderful development.
You may not remember the internet before Google showed us that there was another option beyond simple boolean search, it’s a shame that the owner and inheriter class are willing to sacrifice absolutely everything in the pursuit of a monopoly on labor.
It’s a government failure, induced by capitalism at the expense of everybody for the benefit of a very small number of people.
It’s still an adapt or die situation. Just because these LLMS won’t be with us forever (because no matter how many resources you put into them they’ll never be conscious or able to actually tackle novel problems), doesn’t mean you can live in ignorance of them and hope it’ll all blow over.
Relative to what? Do you know how much water and energy goes into a single bing query? Into leaving your laptop in standby overnight instead of turning it off? Into using your phone whilst you take a shit instead of reading a book or playing with a yo-yo? Do you know how much water and energy goes into electronically paying for a pack of gum with a card? With a phone? With a watch? What about into building your house? Your office? Your car? Your gym? How much is used up by keeping a dog for precisely one year? How much, in total future cost to humanity’s resource consumption, if you have a child?
No I don’t fucking know, it’s a completely unrealistic standard to hold people to.
Fine, valid point that I agree with but it’s not what was asked. You previous poster asked ‘What’s the cost’, now you’re implying ‘What’s the point?’. Not the same question at all
They are related points. The cost matters because there’s no point to the slop machines; they’re wasteful specifically because they don’t produce anything worthwhile for the resources they consume.
You can’t make the point that way without invalidating other ppls lived experiences – anything that people find value in doing has value for those people. Some people find value in ai output. Not me, but I know enough to know that my experience doesn’t speak for all. Yeah, obviously, they’re incredibly wasteful and it’s worth challenging them, but asking if you know how much time is spent on a query is a bit bollocks, it’s enough to know that.
How are you supposed to dislike something if you don’t understand it?
It’s not like AI is intrinsically harmful bad or evil. This pursuit of simulated sapience seems to be generating endless numbers of delusional pathologies and harmful externalities but using computational logic to answer questions and scour databases is objectively a wonderful development.
You may not remember the internet before Google showed us that there was another option beyond simple boolean search, it’s a shame that the owner and inheriter class are willing to sacrifice absolutely everything in the pursuit of a monopoly on labor.
It’s a government failure, induced by capitalism at the expense of everybody for the benefit of a very small number of people.
It’s still an adapt or die situation. Just because these LLMS won’t be with us forever (because no matter how many resources you put into them they’ll never be conscious or able to actually tackle novel problems), doesn’t mean you can live in ignorance of them and hope it’ll all blow over.
Do you know how much water and energy goes to a single chatgpt query?
Relative to what? Do you know how much water and energy goes into a single bing query? Into leaving your laptop in standby overnight instead of turning it off? Into using your phone whilst you take a shit instead of reading a book or playing with a yo-yo? Do you know how much water and energy goes into electronically paying for a pack of gum with a card? With a phone? With a watch? What about into building your house? Your office? Your car? Your gym? How much is used up by keeping a dog for precisely one year? How much, in total future cost to humanity’s resource consumption, if you have a child?
No I don’t fucking know, it’s a completely unrealistic standard to hold people to.
The water that goes into building my house resulted in a house being built.
The water that goes into generating bored apes results in slop that benefits no one.
Fine, valid point that I agree with but it’s not what was asked.
Youprevious poster asked ‘What’s the cost’, now you’re implying ‘What’s the point?’. Not the same question at allThey are related points. The cost matters because there’s no point to the slop machines; they’re wasteful specifically because they don’t produce anything worthwhile for the resources they consume.
You can’t make the point that way without invalidating other ppls lived experiences – anything that people find value in doing has value for those people. Some people find value in ai output. Not me, but I know enough to know that my experience doesn’t speak for all. Yeah, obviously, they’re incredibly wasteful and it’s worth challenging them, but asking if you know how much time is spent on a query is a bit bollocks, it’s enough to know that.