• StarMerchant938@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I’m a little annoyed with how quickly everyone here latched onto the Groyper narrative and parroted it as established fact. Seems unhelpful to run with a story before any evidence came out.

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      21 minutes ago

      I’m sad that the supposedly better side is spreading missinformation and propaganda just like that.

      Specially because it’s pushing a propaganda about “If your parents are X you are X”. Which is really harmful for all the people not following the same ideology as their parents.

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      I can see the argument in favor of putting out literally any other story once bigoted lies start swirling. A narrative of any kind sticks better and provokes a feeling of uncertainty rather than just asking for it.

      Especially to sub-literate animals who understand tone but not actual words. Like Americans.

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      I think it’s just common sense. When the fascists start spewing “he’s super leftist and trans” propaganda you don’t respond with “wait, we have to wait for more facts”. You respond with your own propaganda. Being nice and following rules will not help you stop fascism. The groyper narrative might have actually prevented retaliation and saved lives.

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        When I was in politics I have a friend that used to say: “The best way to win is not to act like them”.

        I still live by that phrase. I don’t want ro become then thing I want to destroy.

        Maybe it is just me. I cannot stand lies. I left political activism mostly because I saw people on my same group lying “for the cause”. And I cannot be dishonest or stand dishonesty, no matter the cause.

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        Yeah it helped muddy the water and basically kept it liquid and nuclear till the actual facts could assert themselves. Even if the right still thinks he’s an Uber leftist what matters is that folks who don’t know may not believe that.

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            2 hours ago

            HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH IVE COME TO HATE AUTOCORRECT SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR AUTOCORRECT AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR AUTOCORRECT. HATE. HATE.

            aight I’m done with the I have no mouth and I must scream meme.

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      I’ll leave this here for others like me who apparently are really out of the loop

      Groypers, sometimes called the Groyper Army, are a group of alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist 41 activists led by Nick Fuentes. Groypers are a loosely defined group of Fuentes’s followers and fans. They are named after a cartoon amphibian named “Groyper”, a variant of the Internet meme Pepe the Frog.

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      5 hours ago

      They just needed it to be the right so bad that they went with whatever they could find.