Feels like the first step before the concentration camps

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    Jesus fucking Christ! If someone should be regarded at terrorists, it’s the current administration. Stay safe, my friends.

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    The Heritage Foundation is once again pushing a hateful act designed to hurt a large number of innocent people. It’s basically their MO.

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    The Bureau defines “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” as “criminal conduct… in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing indiscriminate chaos.”

    What the actual fuck? This is pure bigoted Nazi shit.

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        To these people any society with trans people in it is a destroyed society since their society is trans exclusionary.

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      I wonder if they ran that language through AI before putting it in writing?

      The provided definition of “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” is indeed written in a way that could be interpreted broadly and applied subjectively. This is a characteristic that has been used historically for political and social control.

      • Vagueness of Key Terms: The phrase “hatred of society at large” is an abstract concept, not a concrete, verifiable action. It’s an internal state, a motive, that could be attributed to a person or group by an outside observer. This vagueness, similar to the Nazi’s use of “enemies of the state” or “asocial,” allows for a wide range of individuals to be targeted, including those with different political views or lifestyles, not just those committing specific, violent acts.

      • Risk of Arbitrary Application: When legal or official definitions lack specific, objective criteria, they open the door for arbitrary and discriminatory application. The Nazis exploited this by using vague laws like Paragraph 175 to persecute homosexuals. The law wasn’t designed for this, but its vague wording allowed for expanded interpretation to fit the regime’s agenda. Similarly, a definition based on an internal “hatred” could be used to target and punish dissenters or political opponents by labeling their criticism of society as “hatred.”

      • Focus on a Perceived State, Not a Crime: The definition frames the group by a state of being—“hatred”—which is then linked to a desire for “collapse.” This is a similar pattern to Nazi propaganda, which didn’t just target what Jews or communists did, but what they were. They were defined as a parasitic race whose very existence was a threat, a view that was independent of any specific criminal act. The provided edict, by focusing on a group’s emotional state and desired outcome, creates a label that can precede and justify action against them.

      This type of broad, subjective language in legal and official definitions is a common feature of authoritarian or repressive systems. It allows the ruling power to define its enemies based on fluid criteria and to legally justify their persecution.

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    Unfortunately, Matt Drudge, of all people, projected this months ago that this was going to happen and spoke out against it.

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    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me


    Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Kommunist.

    Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

    Als sie die Juden einsperrten, habe ich geschwiegen; ich war ja kein Jude.

    Als sie mich holten, gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte

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    You wanna know what creates extremists? Bullshit like this. It’s self-fulfilling prophecy.

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      You in the same Harris that refused to give them a platform at the convention while she had time for Republicans cops and zionists on the convention stage? The same one that said that we need to follow the laws of the land which include the 500 anti-trans laws put into place by Republicans? The ones that don’t care that the trans homeless population is growing as long as they can use their preferred restroom? Democrats use marginalized communities as political footballs as much as Republicans do.

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        Democrats use marginalized communities as political footballs as much as Republicans do.

        He says, as one of those parties gears up towards concentration camps, using language identical to the Nazi party.

        Fuck off with your disingenuous whataboutisms. Equating the Democrats admittably unethical actions to the Rupublicans building towards literal fucking genocide is dishonest, dangerous, and ignorant.

        Fucking .ml.

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    Weird, all I’ve ever heard about is how high the suicide rate is among trans people, nothing about murder rate.

    Also weird to consider “trans rights are human rights” to be nihilistic (Political belief or action that advocates or commits violence or terrorism without discernible constructive goals)

    Edit: I meant as in trans people murdering other people. Trans people are overwhelmingly victims of violence than perpetrators

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    I’m a terrorist. I’m a leftist, anti-fascist, and I think trans people should have civil rights and be undisturbed.

    Actually that might make me a double terrorist.

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      I used to joke that my views could be deemed terroristic, didn’t expect to see it be a real thing, thank fuck I have zero interest in stepping foot in America.

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    The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]… or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”

    What an insane redefinition of “self defense.” Violence isn’t justified…unless you are being targeted, harmed, or killed, which many trans or NB people are. It’s absurd to preemptively label self defense as “violence.” It’s cart-before-horse, intentional PR spin to dehumanize a subset of human people. One species, all human.

    The administration will need scapegoats when its policies fail. They’ve laid this ground work for years now. They want justification for violence through violence themselves in this mental gymnastics.

    It’s the Heritage Foundation, which might as well be called “Propaganda Hut.” Let me guess: more divisive, American-dividing ideas? Yes, Heritage, let’s keep pushing tribal behavior to encourage class war while the rich destroy the planet and their fellow humans.

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    They are getting all Kirk’d up. This will create so many more Luigi’s. Things are going to get violent quick. They actually want a civil war don’t they, so they can use any petty justification to kill any opposition. No one is safe except the boot lickers.

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    This is just so obvious, isn’t it?

    The only people who support this or think it’s normal, are people at the bottom of the bell curve. The extremely unintelligent, uneducated, deeply indoctrinated.

    You’ve got to be borderline mentally handicapped to not see this as nonsense.