This is why they’re trying to deploy soldiers to Democratic-leaning areas

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    Didn’t you people attempt to found a country because you didn’t agree with a similar take in 1776?

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    Lmao, any idiots trying to enforce this are going to get shot real quick.

    Considering they have been losing employees this whole year it seems less and less likely that any significant group of brownshirts still exists to carry out these orders, especially since local PDs are starting to not help them.

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      Tbh the US has always been there. It’s just also now overtly affecting middle class whites

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      The US has never been a democracy, it was never even a particularly good representative republic. We started with political power explicitly and exclusively in the hands of white christian landowners and open chattel slavery. We’ve gradually loosened the criteria for voting while simultaneously reducing the impact it has via gerrymandering and other forms of disenfranchisement and corruption, same way we “abolished slavery” but left explicit allowance in the constitution for it as a punishment, now we just happen to have the largest prison population of any nation on this planet. Democracy in the US is a lie and always was, we’re just seeing the last of the facade stripped away.

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        While i agree with you up to a point, posts like yours minimize the harm that the current administration is doing. The system was bad and unfair under Biden and his predecessors, but people still had access to trials and lawyers. Police did not hide behind masks. If the government detained you in the United States, they had to acknowledge it. You didn’t just disappear, kidnapped by ice and moved to a black site outside of the country. (It was another story with afghanistan etc.) You can deplore the system that existed before Trump and still acknowledge that Trump is much, much worse.

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          We can acknowledge the reality of how bad things were before without minimizing how bad they are now. Far too many people are still clinging to the idea that once Trump leaves office we can just go back to “normal” and everything will be ok.

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            You are dead right on that point. That is the true failure of almost every democrat in the US: they all want to go back to a shitty status quo. Let’s get rid of Trump AND usher in something better.

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    Why don’t people advocating for this kind of thing ever feel personal consequences?

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        The problem is not just complacency by the majority, but also that way to many are actively supporting this.

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      They do, eventually. There’s a type of person who shows up in authoritarian regimes, and Stephen Miller fits that type very well. He’s not good at anything except saying the right things. Eventually, a fundamental lack of competence causes them to fuck up in a major way. When that happens, they are “given the courtesy” of being allowed to shoot themselves in the head.

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        And then there’s Kissinger, who lived a long happy life of riches.

        They don’t see consequences because America is a corrupt cesspool in which the rich play without fear of things like “laws” and “ethics” while the uneducated masses are placated by images of brown people suffering.

        “The American Dream is aptly named: you’d need to be asleep to believe it.”

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          Justice doesn’t play into it. This is what happens to a lot of guys in Miller’s position. At some point, your regime does have to solve actual problems. When all the people in the regime are fundamentally incompetent, the boss blames them for failure. Early on, this just means firing them. When they’ve consolidated more power, the term “firing” becomes more literal.

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            Maybe. If Trump croaks, and Vance takes over, maybe he’ll purge Miller for being a potential threat to his power/control.

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              No, it could easily happen before that. Everyone except Trump is replaceable, and that’s especially true if they fuck up in a very public way.

              In fact, Vance taking over and trying to purge the hardliners would hasten the split of the “true believers” away from Vance. That will happen, anyway, but it’d happen faster.

              For historical examples of what happens when the fascist boss is mad at you, see Rudolf Hess or everyone vaguely related to the July 20 assassination plot (even Rommel!).

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    pushes for the use of state power to suppress it

    Funny way of saying, he makes inflammatory statements that resulted in a JUDGE’S HOUSE BURNING DOWN

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    Just the next step in escalating the discourse against their opposition. I hadn’t expected it to ramp up as quickly as it has, but ramp up it has. At this rate, there will be forceful silencing of political rivals by the end of the year.